Simon Mayo

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I don't believe in adding pictures to audio.

That's my opening statement to you, Mark.

Have we begun?

And I know lots of people like to watch us on YouTube.

I'm just suggesting that too much attention is paid to what we look like.

Oh, really?

That's a shock.