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Kermode & Mayo’s Take

SIR IAN MCKELLEN: Christophers and some unfinished business…

07 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What new film is Sir Ian McKellen discussing?

0.217 - 13.293 Simon Mayo

Now, Mark, you were telling me the other day about this Saley eSIM app. Which one was that? Well, the one I just install on my phone before I go abroad so that I can save loads of money on roaming and data charges when I'm there.

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13.594 - 33.245 Mark Kermode

Ah, yes, it's dead simple. Install the Saley app on your device and choose a data plan. There are multiple plans in over 200 destinations available at some of the best rates online. Then follow the instructions on the app to install the eSIM and it'll be activated instantly on arrival. So I don't have to buy a new SIM card when I get there? Nope, there's no queuing at a dodgy airport kiosk.

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33.265 - 38.627 Mark Kermode

A Saley eSIM only needs to be installed once, and then you use the same one for each country you visit.

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Chapter 2: What is the premise of 'The Sheep Detectives'?

38.692 - 41.717 Simon Mayo

Great. Does it let me skip all the other queues too?

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42.018 - 63.446 Mark Kermode

Well, funnily enough, with Saley Ultra, you can enjoy VIP travel perks like airport lounge access, fast track services, priority support, advanced online security, and much more. You'll be telling me we've got a voucher code next. Oh, yes. And don't forget to apply the code TAKE, T-A-K-E, at checkout to get a 15% discount. Howdy, partner. Hello, Simon Mayo.

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63.906 - 65.748 Mark Kermode

I was just thinking the other day about the good old days.

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Chapter 3: How does 'Legends' tackle the war on drugs?

66.048 - 85.211 Simon Mayo

What? The good old days in the Wild West. What's with the howdy, partner thing? Well, I was just thinking that when we started out in the radio, we were lucky because we had each other to bounce off. But most people don't have that support from a partner when they're starting out in business. and they can get overwhelmed easily. Yeah, very true.

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85.651 - 96.926 Mark Kermode

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97.346 - 103.234 Simon Mayo

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103.514 - 109.722 Mark Kermode

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Chapter 4: What unique aspects does Sir Ian McKellen bring to his role?

109.702 - 115.034 Simon Mayo

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115.054 - 119.764 Mark Kermode

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120.025 - 133.475 Simon Mayo

That's shopify.co.uk. Before we begin, a quick reminder that you can become a Vanguardista and get an extra episode every Thursday. Including bonus reviews.

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133.936 - 138.123 Mark Kermode

Extra viewing suggestions. Viewing recommendations at home and in cinemas.

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138.263 - 142.69 Simon Mayo

Plus your film and non-film questions answered as best we can in Questions Shmestians.

142.71 - 149.682 Mark Kermode

You can get all that extra stuff via Apple Podcasts or head to extratakes.com for non-fruit related devices.

149.662 - 178.181 Simon Mayo

There's never been a better time to become a Vanguardista. Free offer now available wherever you get your podcasts. And if you're already a Vanguardista, we salute you. I don't believe in adding pictures to audio. That's my opening statement to you, Mark.

178.542 - 179.644 Mark Kermode

Have we begun? Yeah.

Chapter 5: How does Ian McKellen describe his character in 'The Christophers'?

179.725 - 190.249 Simon Mayo

Have we begun? And I know lots of people like to watch us on YouTube. I'm just suggesting that too much attention is paid to what we look like.

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191.849 - 213.228 Mark Kermode

Well, the hilarious thing is, so you're in your house in Showbiz North London. I'm in Ali's attic, where I have literally got everything balanced upon books and bits of wire and string, until about two seconds ago, in between us, was the behead phoned figure of Simon Paul who only just remembered to turn his camera off.

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213.248 - 214.95 Simon Mayo

Oh, really? That's a shock.

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Chapter 6: What insights does Ian McKellen share about working with Steven Soderbergh?

216.512 - 226.663 Simon Mayo

First thing in the morning. How are you doing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very good. I have, but you know, so for example, the first thing that I did this morning was arrange my bookshelf. Yes.

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Chapter 7: What themes are explored in the conversation about unfinished business?

226.824 - 237.195 Simon Mayo

I had a bet with Josh that you'd spot this before we got anywhere, but the astute listener will have noticed this and also this.

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239.048 - 243.86 Mark Kermode

You've suddenly gone into soft definitions of what you're pointing at. I'm pointing at two books on my bookshelf.

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244.1 - 244.522 Simon Mayo

Can you not see?

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244.542 - 246.988 Mark Kermode

Yeah, I know I can see that, but what are the books that you're pointing at?

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247.068 - 253.243 Simon Mayo

Okay, I'm going to remove them slowly. Okay, fine. This is why I don't believe in pictures. Okay. What is this one?

Chapter 8: What are the highlights of the Mortal Kombat II review?

254.81 - 256.192 Mark Kermode

Oh, that's Steven Spielberg's Children.

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256.993 - 257.093 Simon Mayo

By?

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257.133 - 272.315 Mark Kermode

By Dr. Linda Ruth Williams, Professor Linda Ruth Williams, the definitive guide to children in the films of Steven Spielberg. And that is Surround Sound by Jenny Nelson and some bloke that she used to produce. Just saying, just saying. Just saying. A curated shelf. Well done.

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272.375 - 273.156 Simon Mayo

Thank you.

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274.3 - 276.364 Mark Kermode

Nicely curated. It's looking fine.

276.584 - 281.053 Simon Mayo

I have nothing else to contribute to the show, really, other than I have a curated bookshelf.

281.634 - 299.799 Mark Kermode

Your book's prominent. There was some correspondence, apparently, last week when we were talking about the Korean edition of Movie Doctors. Yeah. And some people said, that's not a Korean edition. That's a Chinese edition. No, no, there were two separate editions. The Korean edition, which is the one that, do you have it there? Yeah.

299.82 - 319.357 Mark Kermode

Which is the one with the doctor with laser beams coming out of their eyes, for which I am told that the title does not translate as the movie doctors. It translates as something like movies need to go to the, to the surgery. Chinese version. There we go. I don't think I've got a copy of that version. This is still wrapped. Did you get it from the publishers?

319.557 - 319.917 Simon Mayo

Yeah.

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