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Could we detect breast cancer with a fingerprint? | Simona Francese
In this room, one in eight women will develop breast cancer, and one in 43 will die.
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Could we detect breast cancer with a fingerprint? | Simona Francese
Looks better for men, but they're not immune.
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And in 2022, the deaths by breast cancer were 670,000 globally, and 11,500 in the UK.
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That's 32 people every day.
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And cases are predicted to rise to 70,000 by 2040, right?
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But here's the good news.
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The death rates are actually falling, and they've been falling remarkably, by 44 percent.
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Why?
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certainly because interventions and better screening and better treatments, but definitely because we can catch cancer earlier.
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So let's talk about screening, right?
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For breast cancer, we have the gold standard of mammography, which is followed by biopsy if the result is positive.
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And we have the breast screening program that invites women every year after a certain age.
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But actually, the target is 70% nationally, but the uptake can be really low in some areas of the country.
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So why is that?
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We really need to understand the reasons why we can't do more screening and why we can't have a better uptake.
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Because I think we can.
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So, NHS backlogs, obviously this has been exacerbated by COVID, let me say, also by decades of underfunding of the NHS.
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We have reduced resources, so there is a disproportion between the number of screenings needed and the radiologists.
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Also, the mammographic equipment isn't exactly present in every city, town, village that you will need.
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So we have here an accessibility problem, which is significantly worse for underserved populations.
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Let's be honest, I personally would choose my life over my modesty, but this is not exactly an exam, a test that preserves your modesty, right?
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And for some populations, this is absolutely culturally unacceptable.
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It is invasive.
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there is a fear associated with radiation, and for many women, it's actually so painful that they refuse to go.
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There was a recent survey of 2,000 women, and a standard of 21 percent said that the embarrassment of being topless and the fear of pain would actually prevent them from undertaking screening.
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At least women know that it's so important to take up the screening, but this still happens.
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So, but what if I told you that my team and I are on probably a game-changing test that looks exactly like a test that will bypass NHS backlogs, that doesn't need any more resources from the NHS, that actually preserves your modesty because it's completely non-invasive.
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There is no radiation and pain associated with it.
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And what if I told you that this comes from the world of fingerprints?
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CSI and fingerprints, right?
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An invisible world like that of a fingerprint.
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We all know what fingerprints are for, right?
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So they're used to identify a suspect by comparing the mark that they left at the crime scene with the fingerprint that has been taken upon arrest or from prior convictions, right?
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So you might tell me, okay, what's got this to do with breast cancer?
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So bear with me, because I need you to rethink what a fingerprint is.
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So this is a close-up of a fingertip, right?
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And the elevated part of the skin are the ridges, and then you see these little holes there.
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Those are the sweat pores from which the sweat comes through.
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And as you're sweating, as soon as you touch a surface, you transfer that sweat
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onto the surface.
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And now you transfer it in a rather mesmerizing way.
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So it's a beautiful pattern of lines, but it is not just a pattern of lines.
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It is a pattern of lines made up of molecules.
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What molecules?
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Whatever our body produces, metabolizes, and then eliminates through sweat.
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Of course, anything that is sitting on your fingertip as you go around in your activities, touching things, right?
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So that's really what a fingerprint is.
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is a molecular pattern unique to an individual, a molecular pattern of lines.
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And what can we do with this?
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We've exploited this knowledge, and in some pioneering research, we have developed a mass spectrometry technique called MOLDI that actually measures the weight of the molecules.
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And by making these measurements, we are able to know what these molecules are, who these molecules are, but we can also see them.
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So if these molecules are distributed homogeneously onto the ridge pattern, by visualizing them, you can visualize a beautiful ridge pattern.
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So now you get a molecular image of a fingerprint.
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Or we can even resolve overlapping fingerprints because we just interrogated the software and recalled the image of distribution of molecules that are unique to each of those fingerprints.
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So, for example, we can eliminate the fingerprint of the victim or we can submit to the database for identification the fingerprint of the perpetrator.
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Although this technique has been used already nationally and internationally, it's been endorsed by the UOM office, that's actually not the only thing that we can do with this.
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Remember, we are looking at molecules, and molecules are there for a reason.
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They tell a story about you.
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that tell about your lifestyle.
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They might tell about the medications that you're taking.
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We can even say something about your state of mind if you take drugs or abuse.
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And even, what have you been doing just prior to or during committing the crime?
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So now you're still asking, OK, so when are we going to get to the part of breast cancer?
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OK, we're going to get there.
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We were looking at personal information.
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So we were looking at the possibility to, from a fingerprint, say whether that belongs to a man or to a woman.
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So for this study, we asked the donors to actually swipe a fingertip.
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on a surface, okay?
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So this is now a smudged fingerprint.
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And then we used our moldy technique with fire laser.
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We get the molecules blast off and then taken up by the mass spectrometer that measures the way.
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And we were looking at proteins and we discovered that the protein profiles between men and women are different enough and we can tell them apart with the 86% of accuracy, right?
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And this is, folks, where serendipity manifested in all of its beauty, right?
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Because my next question was, who are these proteins?
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And as I was looking into this, I realized that some of these proteins actually were already reported in the scientific literature as biomarkers of breast cancer.
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Let that sink in.
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Fingertip smears or smudged fingerprints contain proteins that might be able to tell whether a woman is affected by breast cancer or not.
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So, of course, I rushed to my team, and, you know, we have a meeting, and our jaws really dropped.
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I mean, mine was still dropping from the early discovery.
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And we all had the same two images together in our mind.
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we had a mammogram versus a swipe of the fingertip.
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And also then at that point, we thought, well, then can we further the optimization of this method?
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Can we refine it to maybe produce a non-invasive screening of breast cancer?
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and maybe even just as a pre-screening, so then only women that are positive to this very simple test go through mammograms.
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And that is going to save a lot of emotional distress to women and to family, as well as saving the NHS a lot of resources.
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So CARS organization then have actually estimated a cost of 17.5 billion pounds associated to breast cancer interventions, treatment and screening.
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It's a lot.
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We can reduce the distress to families, to communities, and we can also reduce this cost.
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So it took me the best part of six years, because I was labeled crazy, the best part of six years to obtain £45,000.
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to prove the concept.
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And we did prove the concept.
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So with that 45,000 pounds, I also hijacked some of the fundings that I had.
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But anyway, with those 45,000 pounds, we were able to look at 15 women.
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They gave us three different fingerprint smears.
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We then analyzed the smears in three different locations.
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So we had 135 samples to look at.
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Simply, they came and did actually this three times.
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One, two, three.
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That's my sample.
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I know it sounds crazy.
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The sample preparation for us takes about a couple of hours, but the results can be obtained in minutes.
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Then we trained a machine learning algorithm to recognize the protein patterns coming from women with early breast cancer
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benign and metastatic, OK?
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And we found out that we can tell them apart with the 97.8 percent of accuracy against the 70 to 90 percent accuracy of a mammogram.
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And the results are shown in this confusion matrix.
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I don't know why it's called confusion, but it's the confusion matrix.
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What it tells you there is that of 135 samples, we spotted every time a woman had cancer.
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So, do you think
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that a test that will reduce the NHS costs, that bypasses the backlogs, that doesn't require any more resources, that is non-invasive, that is painless, radiation-free, that increases accessibility because in our vision,
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We can take this test at the GP practices, even in the comfort of your own home, and then we can ship it COVID-style, as we used to do.
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So it really solves the accessibility problem as well.
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And in doing all this, it obviously increases compliance, and hence, it saves lives.
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And do you think that something like this is not worth the investment, the dedication, the perseverance?
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I think it is.
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And I think that this is definitely an idea worth sharing.