Sina Ghaznavi

And this happened to Ahmed Talabi.

I think I messed up his name.

But the guy that was on the cover of The Economist in the 2009 protest, they took him into a room, put a noose around his neck and put a noose around necks of people next to him.

Yeah.

And then they kicked out the chairs of the people on either side of him.

And they took out his bag over his head and they said, look, this could be you.

And they'd send him back.

They played.

They put him in a room with daylight all day.

So he couldn't understand what time of day it was with a recording of his mother saying, please come home, please, please.

So they forced these confessions for people to make.

I mean, it is excruciating what people have gone through there.

And again, there's a lot of people in the diaspora here that are just like, oh,

oh, man, I hate the Iranian government so much.

But it's like, I get it and they're terrible.

But your trauma as an Iranian American, as a person that's an immigrant from Iran that came here, is not the basis for American foreign policy.

It is not the basis.

Yeah, my family's getting bombed, but I'm an American and it is not the basis for American foreign policy to go into another country and also not even do a good job.

Yeah.

When he said regime change and he didn't change the regime at all.