Sinead O'Moore

Do you think if it was, if you were a surgeon, would he have, like, was it that the comedy originated out of,

a hobby and actually had turned into a commercial success, that he struggled with the fortune of that.

Whereas if it was something that was, well, she's a surgeon, so she's going to continue with her surgeries.

Then there was legitimacy in that work.

Yeah, yeah.

And I felt that.

There's loads in the book that isn't just about him, which I was really loving because it actually talks about the types of change, like what we do on this podcast, the types of change, the various types of change, all the ways with which

Big change can feel.

So whether that is getting yourself out of debt, getting yourself into sobriety, getting yourself fit again, because you feel like you have.

And like, I don't know a woman my age in the stage of motherhood that we are in that hasn't lost some aspect of taking care of themselves.

Yeah, absolutely.

Not for staying skinny like we used to because we had to.

But simply like we don't have time, we don't have the same permission or allowance or maybe it's the string that keeps us connected to having to be with our babies when we can be or.

Yes.

What I loved about each chapter was how you navigated, how you educated yourself, how you showed self-compassion for yourself, how you dug yourself out of a hole to find transformation.

And what he did was a catalyst.

But what it triggered was you having to open.

It's like I see you standing in a hotel, in a hotel corridor.

You had to open the door into so many mini transformations as a result.

Instead of swallow it.