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Sir Niall Ferguson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
435 total appearances

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

The tax cuts from 2017 are going to be extended.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

So it's not all negative, but I think I'm in agreement with the economists at Goldman and Morgan Stanley.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

If you do the arithmetic, it's clearly going to be a significant decline in growth this year, possibly recession, though I think that's not the base case.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

And so by the end of the year, even more people than currently are will be saying, well,

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

what do we vote for?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

This is more painful than we had been led to expect.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

Because of course, if you think back to the first Trump administration, it was actually economically pretty beneficial for the average American household.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

That's because Trump didn't go full tariff man.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

Trump was very much constrained in his first term on every major policy domain.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

But this time, after four years in the wilderness, the MAGA gang have a plan.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

And that plan is

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

to go full tariff man, and also to close the southern border.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

And those things will have meaningful costs for American households that they weren't expecting to have to pay when they voted for Trump.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

Well, I think we've already seen the way in which even a 10% stock market drawdown sends Scott and Kevin Hasse into the TV studios to reassure markets that actually the tariffs are going to be just a transactional, temporary thing.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

I'm not sure Trump is bothered by 10% stock market decline.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

I think 20%.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

might get his attention.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

It did in late 2018.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

But then he just piled the pressure on the Fed and said it was on Jay Powell to cut rates.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

So I think this second Trump administration is going to be much harder to blow off course, not least because there are a few elements inside the administration that are actually hostile to this agenda at the moment.