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Sir Niall Ferguson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

We end up in a world where there are three, not two, but three nuclear superpowers.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

Remember, that's Orwell's vision.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

He saw this very early on.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

But it's taken until now for China to be a nuclear superpower.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

And that's different from being a nuclear power.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

Nuclear power is you got a couple of nuclear weapons, big deal.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

Nuclear superpowers, you've got an absolute ton.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

You've got tons and tons of nuclear weapons.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

And China's getting there, and it soon will be there.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

So that's the world in which three nuclear superpowers are in a dominant position.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

Nobody can argue with them.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

And if they choose to have spheres of influence...

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

then that's the world.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

It's the world of 1984.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

The danger of this is, as in the 20th century, that it's not stable and you end up with a conflict.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

And that's the thing that I regard as the biggest risk in all of this.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

The miscalculation, whether it's like the miscalculation the Germans made over Belgium in 1914 or the miscalculation that Hitler made about Britain

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

And Poland in 1939, somebody miscalculates, and then you end up with a conflict.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

And as we've seen already in Russia-Ukraine, it's easy to start a war, hard to stop one.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

So I think there's a risk that this system that is evolving here