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Sir Niall Ferguson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

And actually, on the second point, he's right.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

So that's part of it.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

But Azim, I think the really important idea that's at work here

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

is the reverse Nixon theory that people close to the president occasionally talk about.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

And that's the idea that by being very nice to President Putin over Ukraine, you are going to peel him away from Xi Jinping and try and drive a wedge between the Russians and the Chinese.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

And the reason people say reverse Nixon is that they're thinking of that moment in 71, 72,

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

where Nixon and Kissinger got into touch with Zhou Enlai and Mao Zedong.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

Nixon went to China in 1972.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

That was the big moment when suddenly the Soviets woke up and realized that the US was closer to China than they were.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

And I think the idea here, it helps explain why they appear to be so

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

inexplicably nice to Putin, why they seem to be ready to throw Volodymyr Zelensky and Ukraine under the bus, is they're trying to get into a closer relationship with Russia and peel Putin away from Xi Jinping.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

That's the most Nixonian thing about this administration strategy.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

And I want to just, you know, spoiler alert, I don't think it's going to work.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

Well, first of all, I'd be really careful about saying you agree with J.D.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

Vance in Hampstead, because your neighbours will be far less friendly towards you if you go around saying that.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

This administration is making itself very unpopular very fast in Western Europe, in the UK, in liberal America.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

So when you're agreeing with J.D.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

Vance, you need to take

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

Well, it actually went back much further than that.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

Even in the 1960s, Americans, including Kissinger, were complaining about the unevenness of the burden sharing.