Sohrab Ahmari

Adam already hinted at this as well. You had mass strikes. You had violent uprisings at factories and mines and so on and railroads. Is it possible that we're heading into several decades where we're going to see things like that between, for example, masses of people who've become kind of turned into not even a proletariat but a lumpenproletariat as a result of automation being ruthlessly

Adam already hinted at this as well. You had mass strikes. You had violent uprisings at factories and mines and so on and railroads. Is it possible that we're heading into several decades where we're going to see things like that between, for example, masses of people who've become kind of turned into not even a proletariat but a lumpenproletariat as a result of automation being ruthlessly

push through without political pushback? And is it possible that down the road that will lead to some new labor settlement, some new, whatever the true new deal of the 21st century might be? But as much as possible, I'd like to personally, I'd like to avoid upheaval, right? I don't want to live through the early 20th century.

push through without political pushback? And is it possible that down the road that will lead to some new labor settlement, some new, whatever the true new deal of the 21st century might be? But as much as possible, I'd like to personally, I'd like to avoid upheaval, right? I don't want to live through the early 20th century.

No, I share your alarm at what the sort of techno billionaires are up to. And I'm about as pessimistic as you put it. And what I put my hope in is democracy and democracy, not just as going to the- I've got some bad news, Sora. No, no, not just going to the ballot. Democracy, not as just going to the ballot box every few years, but the idea that

No, I share your alarm at what the sort of techno billionaires are up to. And I'm about as pessimistic as you put it. And what I put my hope in is democracy and democracy, not just as going to the- I've got some bad news, Sora. No, no, not just going to the ballot. Democracy, not as just going to the ballot box every few years, but the idea that

technology, economy, all these things are not, they shouldn't just be sort of left to their own devices and we say, well, inevitably it's gonna lead us in this or that direction, but no, people should have political input in how AI is rolled out, how it affects labor markets, how, you know, the shape that the market takes and so on.

technology, economy, all these things are not, they shouldn't just be sort of left to their own devices and we say, well, inevitably it's gonna lead us in this or that direction, but no, people should have political input in how AI is rolled out, how it affects labor markets, how, you know, the shape that the market takes and so on.

Right. That's what I'm saying is, is there going to be, I think, just logically speaking, there's going to be pushback. And again, the only question is, is it, you know, ferocious upheaval of the kind that I think none of us would like, or will there a kind of wisdom reign like it did in the 1930s when elites

Right. That's what I'm saying is, is there going to be, I think, just logically speaking, there's going to be pushback. And again, the only question is, is it, you know, ferocious upheaval of the kind that I think none of us would like, or will there a kind of wisdom reign like it did in the 1930s when elites

came to realize that for the sake of social order, they need to give more, bottom line, to give more and not just fuck one way. That's my hope.

came to realize that for the sake of social order, they need to give more, bottom line, to give more and not just fuck one way. That's my hope.