Sonia Gray

I'll fulfill that.

And yeah, it can lead down a really dark path.

The problem I have with diagnosis is that we kind of go, all the ADHD people are here in this box, all the autism here, all the dyslexia.

Well, we know now that the co-occurring conditions and it's just the person in front of you.

Totally.

And we're all products of our environment, you know.

It's not just our brain wiring.

No, that's so interesting.

And I think I've interviewed a scientist recently and we talked about how language is so important.

And I don't know if I fully understood that, but in speaking to her and also I did an episode on gender diversity and neurodiversity, the intersection.

And that was really eye-opening for me too, around language and how it's, you know, identity is so important.

And it's not that hard to get the language right.

And, you know, it's... It can be challenging for our generation because it's new and we're like...

Well, they, she, he, well, what does it matter?

I can't get it right.

But yeah, I've now really changed with that because I understand that for many people.

In particular, autistic people, identity is really important.

It's something that is felt.

There's an internal sense of identity and we have to honour that.

How hard is it to just at least, and I think something someone said to me is, if the intent is there, we're not always going to get it right.