Sonia Shah

Or are they actually nice people?

Let's judge them.

No, forget about that.

Let's look at a whole different problem, which is what happens when people cannot migrate?

Go to those places where people are trapped, where people want to move and see what is happening there.

That is a completely underreported story.

And that really gets to the heart of what Zeke and I are both talking about, that people being trapped in a place is much worse than letting them move around.

Thank you.

This was really fun.

Food waste has about five times the greenhouse gas footprint of the entire aviation industry.