Sonia Shah

That's true for all these other species.

And we're learning that now because we have things like solar powered GPS tags that we can put on animals and actually see where do they go?

You know, actually study that prospectively.

This is something new.

This is a lot of new knowledge we're getting now.

And what scientists are finding is that

all these other species are moving farther, faster, and in more complex ways than anyone ever thought was possible before.

So, you know, the story of migration is just, it's expensive, and it's not just in humanity.

And so I think we need to rethink

what is our place in nature?

There's this very old idea that goes back to Linnaeus that there is some kind of, you know, a settled order in nature that everything belongs in a certain place, right?

We name things that way.

We say, you know, there's the Japanese maple or the Canadian goose.

You know, we associate the place and the animal as if they're the same thing.

Well, now we know these animals are moving all over the place.

They don't sit in certain fixed places on the planet at all.

And that's true for us, too.

We've all been moving all along.

So we need to kind of rethink our ideas about nature, I think, and our place in nature as well.

Yeah, there's no doubt about it.