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Sophie Gilbert

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
219 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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Radio Atlantic
The Meaning of 'Melania'

No, I do think her story is a fascinating one.

Radio Atlantic
The Meaning of 'Melania'

But again, it's hard to tell how much of what she says is actually reflective of what actually happened.

Radio Atlantic
The Meaning of 'Melania'

I mean, I think during Melania, the movie, she talks about her mother as a fashion designer, which is slightly, I think, overplaying her mother's actual job.

Radio Atlantic
The Meaning of 'Melania'

She was a pattern maker in a children's clothes factory, like a state-owned children's clothing factory in Slovenia.

Radio Atlantic
The Meaning of 'Melania'

So there's sort of the story that she tells, which is Trump often describes her as a supermodel.

Radio Atlantic
The Meaning of 'Melania'

There's this idea that she had this, you know, flourishing modeling career.

Radio Atlantic
The Meaning of 'Melania'

But in reality, I think she had this very 80s aesthetic during the 90s as a model.

Radio Atlantic
The Meaning of 'Melania'

And she didn't quite fit during the fashion moment.

Radio Atlantic
The Meaning of 'Melania'

So a lot of the ads that she got were commercials.

Radio Atlantic
The Meaning of 'Melania'

And she did an ad for Camel cigarettes.

Radio Atlantic
The Meaning of 'Melania'

And so she definitely worked as a model, but it wasn't the idea that she was up there, you know, with the Kate Mosses and the Naomi Campbells at the time is definitely not true.

Radio Atlantic
The Meaning of 'Melania'

But even in a deep dive analysis of the superficial aspects that she presents, that's why I find the fashion thing so fascinating.

Radio Atlantic
The Meaning of 'Melania'

The idea that she wears men's tailoring when she's angry at her husband.

Radio Atlantic
The Meaning of 'Melania'

She gives us so little, but there is definitely fodder to dig into in a more thorough and curious way.

Radio Atlantic
The Meaning of 'Melania'

But I think that's not what Melania the film is about.

Radio Atlantic
The Meaning of 'Melania'

Yeah, but it's funny, too, because I think they realize by the end of the movie that they really have given us nothing.

Radio Atlantic
The Meaning of 'Melania'

So there's this rush to kind of unfurl actual, you know, accomplishments.

Radio Atlantic
The Meaning of 'Melania'

But it's funny, too, because there's a scene in the film where she talks about her accomplishments as first lady.

Radio Atlantic
The Meaning of 'Melania'

She's like, oh, I renovated the rose garden, you know, which her husband turned into a patio.