Sophie Gilbert

Right.

She talks about working in the East Wing, which her husband turned into a pile of rubble.

Like, there's all these...

moments where she sort of very happily talks about things that she's done, but there's no acknowledgement of where they stand now.

And so you do have this sort of wall of text at the end saying that she's worked for children in the foster care community, and she's rallied on behalf of the Take It Down Act, which is involving pictures online.

And

This peace letter to Putin, which I did not know about.

And obviously, I don't think it really has worked.

And if the goal was managing peace between Russia and Ukraine, but sort of questionable accomplishments, but it does seem to reflect a small amount of panic from the filmmaker regarding what he's actually been able to tell us.

It feels to me like an extension of what so many people do on Instagram now, which is curate their own reality and curate their own sense of self in a way that is very controlled and very intentional, but also very flat and often not that fun to engage with.

But in terms of femininity at the moment, I do find that fascinating because I would say so much...

of femininity in this moment, and especially in conservative circles, is about this kind of weaponized performance of not just femininity, but also wealth.

Like this very obvious work that people are willing to put in to look the right way to sort of perform in a way that Trump might find pleasing.

That is very of this moment.

And certainly like the unabashed performance of wealth, I think, is something that...

we have become very used to online and are maybe getting sick of right now.

I personally feel sick of it, but maybe I'm the only one.

Oh, it was my pleasure.

Thank you for having me.