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Yeah.

How do you wrap your mind around that?

Right.

You know, I got a big sense of that when I went into Old Growth Rainforest in Costa Rica for the first time.

And I touched like the handle of a bridge and it felt like it was moving because like every drop of everything is alive and everything is either competing, going along with and helping, supporting or eating one another in that space.

And it's like, what is happening in here?

It's like everything is alive.

Yeah.

You know?

And I had that type of an experience on psychedelics.

In the religious context, psilocybin, I felt like I dropped into the collective conscience and I got to see the partitioned section that was my psychic space where all my complexes and traumas were pulsing energetically into one another and how that energy was spilling over on my family and community.

That was the access that was given to me through psilocybin.

And those energetic forces are pushing me around right now as we speak.

Yeah.

I agree.

And look, we're all ancient persons right now in this moment in time.

And I believe that.

That was illegal.

They were fighting and arguing about.

Yeah.