Chapter 1: What was the controversy in the Inter vs. Juventus match?
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Chapter 2: How did the red card incident affect the match outcome?
We're going to bring you all the magic of the FA Cup. Liverpool winning. Arsenal winning. Cavanaugh having an absolute horror show in the Villa game. We'll talk about that. Real Madrid, big win ahead of the return against the Prince of Darkness, Jose Mourinho. I'm going to be there, by the way. Looking forward to it. But we're going to start. At the San Siro. Inter against Juventus.
Now, I wish we could be talking about an engrossing game which went back and forth. It was still very good, I thought. It was still a very good game. There were moments of skill.
Chapter 3: What were the highlights from Liverpool's FA Cup win?
One incident overshadows everything. You can tell me if I'm seeing this wrong, right? There's a Juve attack. Bastoni intercepts the ball. He surges forward. Kalulu's in his way. Kalulu has already been booked. Kalulu puts out an arm, a hand. Yeah, half an arm, yeah. Brushes against Bastoni. Who goes down theoretically. Who goes down theatrically. Very nicely done, no.
Referee, La Pena, immediately comes over, shows him the second yellow, and Kalulu's off. And then all hell breaks loose.
Chapter 4: How did Real Madrid perform against Real Sociedad?
There's a lot to unpack. I just want to start with the incident. There's two things here. Bastoni's wrong twice. The referee's wrong. Nobody disputes that. VAR could not intervene because it was a second yellow. That's going to change March 8th, the IFAB meeting. These rules will probably come into effect for next season. We expect them to say, you can use VAR for second yellow.
It's common sense, right? Yeah, absolutely. Nobody's going to disagree with that. And you even see Kalulu saying to the referee, go and have a look, go and check, check, check, check. And obviously he can't do it.
Chapter 5: What impact did Cristiano Ronaldo's goal have on his legacy?
Now, the referee's a fool. He got it wrong. It's a brain fart, whatever, right? But he's a fool for showing the card immediately because... Yeah, it's very quick. It's really quick. You can't go to VAR, but you have assistant referees who could be like, wait a minute, you already booked this guy. Are you sure that this is a tactical foul? I mean, it was inside the inter half and everything. Yeah.
Bastoni lets himself fall. We've seen this. He was on the receiving end when Inter played Liverpool. Remember, he gave up the penalty. A light tap to the back of Florian Wurz. Florian Wurz falls over like a sack of potatoes.
Chapter 6: What are the implications of VAR changes in football?
This is not okay. No. It's not okay. It's not okay. I mean, this was worse, the Bastoni thing. And what made it even worse is he's actually celebrating as if he'd scored a goal when Kalulusa gets sent off. That is unconscionable. Jules, if I'm Inter, I'm going to say you don't match our club values. I know we've all made mistakes in the past from now on. You're banned for three games.
Yeah.
We're going to ban you internally.
Yeah, he's cheating. That's all you can call it. And people in Italy have called it like that.
Chapter 7: How are refereeing standards affecting Serie A?
And Bastoni, I don't know him. He looks like a nice guy or anything, but he knew exactly what he was doing. He knew Kalulu was on a yellow. He knew there was no contact whatsoever. He went down because he knew the referee was very likely giving a second yellow, which he did. You're right. His reaction at celebrating probably makes things even worse when you're looking from the outside.
And I know this is a high game. It's a derby. Italia is big. I get all of that.
But you can't cheat. No. It's not just the cheating. It's the celebration part.
Chapter 8: What does the future hold for Juventus in the league?
I mean, all right. Imagine this. France against Argentina. World Cup final. Lionel Messi pulls a hamstring. Do you want to see Kylian Mbappe jumping up around celebrating? You know what I mean? It's absurd. Two Juve officials, Damian Kamali and Giorgio Chiellini, up in the stands. So the Juventus CEO and director of football, we can call him like that. Chiellini, something like that, yeah.
They get heated. They come down into the tunnel at halftime. You can see Spalletti saying, hey, they're waiting for you as the referee goes off the pitch. Comoli has to be physically restrained. They confront and insult him. I have a serious problem with that. I hope they both get... You can be as angry as you want after the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You do not do this at halftime. It's not your role. No, I can understand the frustration, obviously, because the game is 1-1 at the time. Just before the break, you go into halftime 1-1, but with 10 men away against Inter. You knew that second half was going to be difficult. It was a massive game for Juve to finish in the top four or five.
Obviously, not for the title, but for the top four or five. So you knew already... Which they need. Yeah, which they need, absolutely. But you can't excuse them just because of that frustration. It's unacceptable behaviour.
Yeah, and if you wanted to be mean, you could also bring up what Chiellini was like as a player, which was very much in line with Bastoni. Referee chief Gianluca Rocchi apologised for the mistake the next day. He said he's mortified. But he did say something which I thought was very relevant. We are not being helped by the players or the managers.
Because every time we go on the pitch, they're out there trying to con us. I think that's a really valid point. I think that's something to think about going forward to try to resolve this. And we're going to break this on further on the Gavin Jules Podcast. All right, Jules, I don't want to moralize. My views over this have kind of evolved over the years.
I remember talking to Pierluigi Colina years ago when I did the book with Gianluca Vialli, his first book. when he said, if you go onto the pitch, as a professional footballer, I, the referee, is something that you need to play professionally. I am like the chalk on the sidelines, I am like the goals, I am like the balls. You are not competing against me. You're competing against your opponent.
At the time, I gotta say, as many years ago, maybe less wise, I said, yeah, I know, but you want to do everything to get an edge, to get an advantage. And as I get older, this really bugs the crap out of me. This is not being clever. This is not forcing your opponent to commit a foul, right? Or doing the old, like, you know, sort of, if you're an NBA fan, billing beer or whatever, leaving a leg.
This is cheating, and it's... rejoicing at the fact that you have successfully cheated somebody.
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