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And he said that Vladimir Putin sent them in writing a draft treaty that all you have to do is put in writing that you will never bring Ukraine into NATO and I won't invade.

And then he bragged that we said no.

And then he invaded.

But so I said this to Douglas Murray, and I was kind of curious.

I was like, what's his response to this going to be?

What is he going to say back?

Maybe he's got something I've never heard before that I'm going to have to be like, oh, shit, I've got to consider that.

And his response was, a libertarian quoting the CIA, I see.

And you're like, wait, so that's your pivot is to I'm a hypocrite somehow, which isn't even hypocrisy.

Like, yes, I think the CIA should be abolished.

I also think it's relevant when the head of the CIA admits what the war was all about.

I don't see that.

Yeah.

So what the CIA was originally like conceived of, like essentially being a newspaper for the president, like being like, hey, we get all the real intelligence and we give it to you here.

Yes, I 100% think there's room for intelligence gathering, but what the CIA became

is a paramilitary organization that starts wars and overthrows democratically elected governments all around the world.

And occasionally, when they're bored, and maybe on a Tuesday, like a three-day weekend, and then on Tuesday, maybe move some crack into Los Angeles.

No, that, I mean, just should... I mean, it's a disgrace to a professed free society.

I mean, it's... Look, like, when... Which we've also played on the show before, but...

When Chuck Schumer was on with Rachel Maddow, which is one of the most amazing moments in the history of corporate media, because what's amazing about it, if you watch the full thing, is that Rachel Maddow's asking him questions, and he's given his Chuck Schumer...