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And that was my first time that I had met him.

And then through all of them, I met Dave Grush and

Carl Nell and Dave and I are in regular contact and I'm, you know, I mean, I just want to say up front, I hope that the Trump administration understands the value of what David can bring to them and put him in a position of authority that gives him not the ability necessarily to make decisions but to give the necessary information to the right people.

Because I think there's great commercial value here that is being missed, not just the are we alone, et cetera.

I think there's extraordinary commercial value.

I mean, imagine a civilization that's a million years ahead of us.

How many technology revolutions allow these objects to move as we clearly see something motivating itself or maneuvering around the atmosphere?

Right.

So if we could scrape just the tiniest bit of understanding off of the top of that, what would that do to change our own civilization?

I mean, silicon, a grain of sand, makes us who we are today.

Everything that is...

that's around me right here is all run off of silicon.

right?

I mean, compute.

But imagine that there's other inventions, other ways of manipulating reality that we don't appreciate yet because our physics just isn't there yet.

If we can understand that, so the government might say, well, we need to keep this behind closed doors for weaponization or we don't want to disrupt energy production or what have you.

That's fine.

But maybe there's too much secrecy and that maybe that there's an aspect of that

that could be taken advantage of.

So Carl Nell and I have gotten in positive arguments about this, about that, well, it's not black and white that we keep something secret or we put it into the public domain.