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you know, ethereal or supposed aliens.

I mean, they would mostly, I think, on the assumption that they're not going to basically show up at your local Walmart and start, you know, interacting with you.

I think the fact of revealing that we're not alone is actually more of a hopeful thing to me.

Because, you know, how many TV shows right now are about the apocalypse?

Of a thousand different varieties.

Yeah.

Wouldn't it be nice to know that somebody got beyond it?

That there's not a cliff that we all have to walk over?

Right.

And if so, how do we not walk over the edge of the cliff?

I mean, that to me is a hopeful outcome.

Now, Hal and Eric and all the people are all good friends.

Hal is probably, for all of the things that he says positively, is probably the tightest clam I've ever met.

in terms of making sure that he doesn't go over the line.

Yeah.

It's people like him and Jacques and Kit Green and a number of others.

And I sat around a table with them for several years, like every twice a year.

And I looked around the table and thought, the things that these people know or claim to know,

I want to know and the opportunity that's here and why can't we get this information out if it's real?

And so rather than arguing with people about the matter, that's, for instance, why I created the Soul Foundation.