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But after two weeks with all the allegedly most biodiversity-loving companies in the world, Mauricio says they'd only sold about 280 more.

But after two weeks with all the allegedly most biodiversity-loving companies in the world, Mauricio says they'd only sold about 280 more.

But after two weeks with all the allegedly most biodiversity-loving companies in the world, Mauricio says they'd only sold about 280 more.

Mauricio and his colleagues at Terrazos and a lot of other people in the world of biodiversity credits admit that the demand that they'd hoped for doesn't seem to exist right now. And so they are coming around to something their critics have been saying. The only way to get companies to pay is if governments or institutions like the World Bank get involved.

Mauricio and his colleagues at Terrazos and a lot of other people in the world of biodiversity credits admit that the demand that they'd hoped for doesn't seem to exist right now. And so they are coming around to something their critics have been saying. The only way to get companies to pay is if governments or institutions like the World Bank get involved.

Mauricio and his colleagues at Terrazos and a lot of other people in the world of biodiversity credits admit that the demand that they'd hoped for doesn't seem to exist right now. And so they are coming around to something their critics have been saying. The only way to get companies to pay is if governments or institutions like the World Bank get involved.

By the end of the COP16 conference, the world's biodiversity problem didn't seem to be any closer to being solved. The diplomats had not managed to come to an agreement on government spending on biodiversity, and not much had fundamentally changed in the private sector either.

By the end of the COP16 conference, the world's biodiversity problem didn't seem to be any closer to being solved. The diplomats had not managed to come to an agreement on government spending on biodiversity, and not much had fundamentally changed in the private sector either.

By the end of the COP16 conference, the world's biodiversity problem didn't seem to be any closer to being solved. The diplomats had not managed to come to an agreement on government spending on biodiversity, and not much had fundamentally changed in the private sector either.

The biodiversity credit companies packed up their giant Jenga blocks and tequila offerings, and the multinational executives jetted back to their corporate headquarters.

The biodiversity credit companies packed up their giant Jenga blocks and tequila offerings, and the multinational executives jetted back to their corporate headquarters.

The biodiversity credit companies packed up their giant Jenga blocks and tequila offerings, and the multinational executives jetted back to their corporate headquarters.

Today's episode was co-reported by Tommaso Primni. It was produced by James Sneed, edited by Jess Jang, fact-checked by Sierra Juarez, and engineered by Sina Lofredo. Alex Goldmark is our executive producer.

Today's episode was co-reported by Tommaso Primni. It was produced by James Sneed, edited by Jess Jang, fact-checked by Sierra Juarez, and engineered by Sina Lofredo. Alex Goldmark is our executive producer.

Today's episode was co-reported by Tommaso Primni. It was produced by James Sneed, edited by Jess Jang, fact-checked by Sierra Juarez, and engineered by Sina Lofredo. Alex Goldmark is our executive producer.

And I'm Alexi Horwitz-Ghazi. This is NPR. Thanks for listening.

And I'm Alexi Horwitz-Ghazi. This is NPR. Thanks for listening.

And I'm Alexi Horwitz-Ghazi. This is NPR. Thanks for listening.