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Tom has been with us on a couple of other shows because Tom is involved in a lot of, in his career actually, besides being a physician, he's been involved in many public health issues. related issues that he and I have some history together with. We'll touch base on that in a second. He's the Medical Director of Wellbeing at Health Partners.

I think, if I'm not mistaken, Tom recently retired or still connected. recently retired, but still, I know he's still connected. If you know Tom, he'll be connected. He obtained his medical degree from the University of Minnesota School of Medicine and trained in internal medicine at the Royal Victoria Hospital in Montreal and the North Carolina Memorial Hospital in Chapel Hill.

I think, if I'm not mistaken, Tom recently retired or still connected. recently retired, but still, I know he's still connected. If you know Tom, he'll be connected. He obtained his medical degree from the University of Minnesota School of Medicine and trained in internal medicine at the Royal Victoria Hospital in Montreal and the North Carolina Memorial Hospital in Chapel Hill.

Trained in cardiovascular diseases and preventive cardiology at the University of Minnesota and has been involved in in many, many, many public health related issues. He's unique in the sense that he carries on one hand, the public health charge and on the other hand, the medical torch. So Tom, thanks for being with us once again.

Trained in cardiovascular diseases and preventive cardiology at the University of Minnesota and has been involved in in many, many, many public health related issues. He's unique in the sense that he carries on one hand, the public health charge and on the other hand, the medical torch. So Tom, thanks for being with us once again.

We also have Kathleen Anderson, a clinical social worker and volunteer educator at Be Smart. And hopefully at the end of the show, we're all going to be a little smarter, but we'll get into the logistics of that. The Be Smart campaign educates on the importance of secure firearm storage to prevent childhood firearm injury and death. And she volunteers her time. So, wow. Noble. Very, very noble.

We also have Kathleen Anderson, a clinical social worker and volunteer educator at Be Smart. And hopefully at the end of the show, we're all going to be a little smarter, but we'll get into the logistics of that. The Be Smart campaign educates on the importance of secure firearm storage to prevent childhood firearm injury and death. And she volunteers her time. So, wow. Noble. Very, very noble.

And Thea. Thea Williams. who I just met, but it's interesting because I would almost call Thea an intervention person. You know, this is a, her, her background is she works with, with people who unfortunately have experienced, um, gun violence and in hospitals in the, uh, in metropolitan area in, uh, in Minnesota. And, um,

And Thea. Thea Williams. who I just met, but it's interesting because I would almost call Thea an intervention person. You know, this is a, her, her background is she works with, with people who unfortunately have experienced, um, gun violence and in hospitals in the, uh, in metropolitan area in, uh, in Minnesota. And, um,

You know, what you do, just first of all, on one hand, it's sad because we have to have people like you. And fortunately, we do. And on the other hand, it's a point of contact for true education going forward. So on one hand, we're really trying to do primary prevention here, getting people to be smart and lock up their firearms accordingly.

You know, what you do, just first of all, on one hand, it's sad because we have to have people like you. And fortunately, we do. And on the other hand, it's a point of contact for true education going forward. So on one hand, we're really trying to do primary prevention here, getting people to be smart and lock up their firearms accordingly.

And on the other hand, it's what we call secondary prevention after an event has happened. Well, okay, now let's get at least smart, okay, going forward. So Thea will tell us about the work that she does, but thank you for being with us, all of you today. It's a pleasure having you.

And on the other hand, it's what we call secondary prevention after an event has happened. Well, okay, now let's get at least smart, okay, going forward. So Thea will tell us about the work that she does, but thank you for being with us, all of you today. It's a pleasure having you.

All right. So here we go. Who wants to kick it off here? You know, Clarence, Thea, Kathleen, Tell us about the immediacy and the real problem that we're facing right now.

All right. So here we go. Who wants to kick it off here? You know, Clarence, Thea, Kathleen, Tell us about the immediacy and the real problem that we're facing right now.

yeah so what is so a couple hang on one sec Kathleen so what what comes to mind for me is um I don't know you know as you know first of all I don't own a gun but I don't know who does own a gun so like if I go to anyone's house what am I just supposed to do do you have a gun oh Okay, well, it's not like a conversation starter. Do you know what I mean?

yeah so what is so a couple hang on one sec Kathleen so what what comes to mind for me is um I don't know you know as you know first of all I don't own a gun but I don't know who does own a gun so like if I go to anyone's house what am I just supposed to do do you have a gun oh Okay, well, it's not like a conversation starter. Do you know what I mean?

It's kind of like, if I see, so it's like, how is it that I engage in that conversation with somebody? Does that make sense? It's just like, how do you do it? How do you do it? Or why would you do it? Go ahead. Go ahead, Kathleen. Let me see you. Or Thea, go ahead.

It's kind of like, if I see, so it's like, how is it that I engage in that conversation with somebody? Does that make sense? It's just like, how do you do it? How do you do it? Or why would you do it? Go ahead. Go ahead, Kathleen. Let me see you. Or Thea, go ahead.

Barry, go ahead. Thanks, Kathleen.