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Barry, go ahead. Thanks, Kathleen.

Yeah. You know, Thea, I've got a question for you. Tell me some happy things, okay? Because I know that you're involved with intervention. Tell me something that you've heard that you're you're really happy about, given the fact that you're dealing with this all the time. But do people circle back to you and say, because of you, I'm making damn sure that our firearms are secure.

Yeah. You know, Thea, I've got a question for you. Tell me some happy things, okay? Because I know that you're involved with intervention. Tell me something that you've heard that you're you're really happy about, given the fact that you're dealing with this all the time. But do people circle back to you and say, because of you, I'm making damn sure that our firearms are secure.

Do you hear good things coming from this?

Do you hear good things coming from this?

Okay. So the other thought that came to my mind was point of sale. Okay, so use me as illustration. I want to go to wherever, Skeels or Dick's or wherever, and I want to buy a gun. Doesn't point of sale have some kind of responsibility when they sell you the gun to give you education, information, sell you a device to make damn sure that that device is locked up safely in your home. So, go ahead.

Okay. So the other thought that came to my mind was point of sale. Okay, so use me as illustration. I want to go to wherever, Skeels or Dick's or wherever, and I want to buy a gun. Doesn't point of sale have some kind of responsibility when they sell you the gun to give you education, information, sell you a device to make damn sure that that device is locked up safely in your home. So, go ahead.

I'm not saying somebody else altogether, but aren't they part of the smart solution?

I'm not saying somebody else altogether, but aren't they part of the smart solution?

And hopefully it goes beyond kids. I mean, it's for all of us, really, when you really think about it. Go ahead, Clarence.

And hopefully it goes beyond kids. I mean, it's for all of us, really, when you really think about it. Go ahead, Clarence.

So Tom, I have a question for you, Tom. You and I, for sure, have been involved in public health issues that have a long time frame attached to them. Take smoking. It took a long time. It really did. It took a long time in a really strong, concerted public health effort to have smoke-free environments, et cetera, et cetera. It took a long time.

So Tom, I have a question for you, Tom. You and I, for sure, have been involved in public health issues that have a long time frame attached to them. Take smoking. It took a long time. It really did. It took a long time in a really strong, concerted public health effort to have smoke-free environments, et cetera, et cetera. It took a long time.

to get kids in child restraint seats and people buckled up. It took, when I say a long time, it took a long time for public psyche to embrace it, okay, and be comfortable with it and know that that's just part of what we do now. What has really struck me about this topic is the immediacy, the absolute immediacy of the situation.

to get kids in child restraint seats and people buckled up. It took, when I say a long time, it took a long time for public psyche to embrace it, okay, and be comfortable with it and know that that's just part of what we do now. What has really struck me about this topic is the immediacy, the absolute immediacy of the situation.

We are seeing more and more people getting shot accidentally or what have you daily. I mean, your numbers here indicate that. So how is it that we might be able to deal with what seemingly feels like a long haul here to get everybody on the bandwagon when we're dealing with an immediacy of a situation. Do you have any thoughts on that, Tom?

We are seeing more and more people getting shot accidentally or what have you daily. I mean, your numbers here indicate that. So how is it that we might be able to deal with what seemingly feels like a long haul here to get everybody on the bandwagon when we're dealing with an immediacy of a situation. Do you have any thoughts on that, Tom?

It's a good point. Really good point. Better to be proactive when there is no harm.

It's a good point. Really good point. Better to be proactive when there is no harm.

Barry, go ahead. And then Kathleen, go ahead, Barry.