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Hello, everybody. Welcome to Health Chatter. Today's show is going to be, if you can imagine, health insurance. And Barry and Clarence and I and Matthew are all kind of laughing because it's really a complicated subject. But we're going to try to dig into it a little bit and hopefully provide some clarity for everyone. we're pretty sure that, uh, we won't be able to do it all in one show.

So stay tuned. Um, we have a great, great crew. And, uh, I, I keep saying this, you know, for each one of our shows that we do, uh, we have a great research gang, Maddie Levine, Wolf, Aaron Collins, Deandra Howard, Sheridan Nygaard. And, um,

So stay tuned. Um, we have a great, great crew. And, uh, I, I keep saying this, you know, for each one of our shows that we do, uh, we have a great research gang, Maddie Levine, Wolf, Aaron Collins, Deandra Howard, Sheridan Nygaard. And, um,

All I can say is that the research that they do for us, even though we're kind of semi-knowledgeable about most of these topics, but they really do put together some great stuff. Matthew Campbell's our production master. He's also recording our show today and he gets out the shows to you, the listening audience. Then, of course, there's

All I can say is that the research that they do for us, even though we're kind of semi-knowledgeable about most of these topics, but they really do put together some great stuff. Matthew Campbell's our production master. He's also recording our show today and he gets out the shows to you, the listening audience. Then, of course, there's

Barry Baines is our medical advisor, and he's on this show today. It should be interesting to get his perspective on health insurance. And then, of course, Clarence Jones, my great colleague and co-host for Health Chatter. Thanks to everybody. It's truly a wonderful crew. Human Partnership is our sponsor and have been since our very, very first show.

Barry Baines is our medical advisor, and he's on this show today. It should be interesting to get his perspective on health insurance. And then, of course, Clarence Jones, my great colleague and co-host for Health Chatter. Thanks to everybody. It's truly a wonderful crew. Human Partnership is our sponsor and have been since our very, very first show.

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You can check them out at humanpartnership.org. Great community health organization. Highly recommend you check them out. They do really, really good, good work out in the community. And you can check us out at healthchatterpodcast.com where you can see all of our shows. You can see transcripts of our shows if you'd rather read them instead of listening to them.

And also we include all the background research that we use for our shows so that you can take a look at them as well. So check us out, healthchatterpodcast.com. So with that, Today we have an illustrious gang of Barry and Clarence. Clarence and I, we're going to talk about health insurance. And I'll tell you, you know, just to start us all out, it's confusing.

And also we include all the background research that we use for our shows so that you can take a look at them as well. So check us out, healthchatterpodcast.com. So with that, Today we have an illustrious gang of Barry and Clarence. Clarence and I, we're going to talk about health insurance. And I'll tell you, you know, just to start us all out, it's confusing.

And I can only imagine, you know, here we are, we've been involved in health for a long, long time. And, you know, I could say that we're at least semi-knowledgeable about health insurance. But Overall, it's a really, really confusing mess. So, all right, Clarence, let's start with you first because, I mean, you know, you always come at this from a community perspective.

And I can only imagine, you know, here we are, we've been involved in health for a long, long time. And, you know, I could say that we're at least semi-knowledgeable about health insurance. But Overall, it's a really, really confusing mess. So, all right, Clarence, let's start with you first because, I mean, you know, you always come at this from a community perspective.

And how is it that we can truly communicate in, you know, in normal language so that people can really take advantage of information? So what do you think about health insurance overall? Where are we standing with this?

And how is it that we can truly communicate in, you know, in normal language so that people can really take advantage of information? So what do you think about health insurance overall? Where are we standing with this?

Barry, what's your initial thought on health insurance?

Barry, what's your initial thought on health insurance?

So let me ask this question. You know, it's like, you know, when you really think about health insurance, I remember, you know, when the alphabet soup really started, it was Health Maintenance Organization, HMO. And There might have been something previous to that, but certainly that was one of them.

So let me ask this question. You know, it's like, you know, when you really think about health insurance, I remember, you know, when the alphabet soup really started, it was Health Maintenance Organization, HMO. And There might have been something previous to that, but certainly that was one of them.

One of the first HMOs in the country was right here in Minnesota, and it was Group Health, which has since morphed into Health Partners. But the idea behind it was that, okay, it's one thing to treat you for a medical condition, but how is it that we can help to maintain your health and provide some prevention as well? That was kind of the idea behind it back then.