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Yeah, so they kind of complement each other. Exactly. So I wonder if a person is first spiritual, first spiritual, and then maybe embraces religion as part of that spirituality. I don't know, or maybe the other way around.

Yeah. So, you know, to a certain extent, I wonder if we're born with spirituality. a sense of appreciation of things around us, taking in a breath of fresh air. Those types of things, I think, are kind of innate. And we embrace that. We embrace that. And then religion... perhaps complements it for some, you know, or brings it to a different level or a different angle of it, you know, per se.

Yeah. So, you know, to a certain extent, I wonder if we're born with spirituality. a sense of appreciation of things around us, taking in a breath of fresh air. Those types of things, I think, are kind of innate. And we embrace that. We embrace that. And then religion... perhaps complements it for some, you know, or brings it to a different level or a different angle of it, you know, per se.

Yeah. All right. So this is health chatter. Okay. So, you know, one of the things that has struck me, you know, I volunteer at Methodist Hospital in St. Louis Park here. And, you know, I see patients who are just come out of surgery. And inevitably, just about every time I go, there's some kind of a spiritual aspect.

Yeah. All right. So this is health chatter. Okay. So, you know, one of the things that has struck me, you know, I volunteer at Methodist Hospital in St. Louis Park here. And, you know, I see patients who are just come out of surgery. And inevitably, just about every time I go, there's some kind of a spiritual aspect.

to their experience that they're going through, the surgery that they've come out of. There's kind of a spiritual aspect to their recovery. And for some, There's a religious connection as well. You know, it's just like, you know, I've seen, you know, patients that, you know, literally pray that, you know, they get better and get better soon.

to their experience that they're going through, the surgery that they've come out of. There's kind of a spiritual aspect to their recovery. And for some, There's a religious connection as well. You know, it's just like, you know, I've seen, you know, patients that, you know, literally pray that, you know, they get better and get better soon.

Or people that are visiting will mention that this person that's in the hospital they're praying for, okay, And for some odd reason, I sense that that's part of the health of it all.

Or people that are visiting will mention that this person that's in the hospital they're praying for, okay, And for some odd reason, I sense that that's part of the health of it all.

Yeah. You know, I believe that spirituality, for sure, has a calming effect. And and you know, it's just like in the hustle bustle that we all are dealing with or the, or the angst that we're dealing with or, or the, Oh my God, the many things that are going on around us.

Yeah. You know, I believe that spirituality, for sure, has a calming effect. And and you know, it's just like in the hustle bustle that we all are dealing with or the, or the angst that we're dealing with or, or the, Oh my God, the many things that are going on around us.

Um, spirituality gives us that, that moment where we, we could truly just calm down, take a deep breath and, and perhaps from a health perspective, um, give us a different view of what's going on that might be healthier and help us to get through things differently. And I think, I don't know, maybe there's research on this, that I think, you know, chaplaincy has a component of that.

Um, spirituality gives us that, that moment where we, we could truly just calm down, take a deep breath and, and perhaps from a health perspective, um, give us a different view of what's going on that might be healthier and help us to get through things differently. And I think, I don't know, maybe there's research on this, that I think, you know, chaplaincy has a component of that.

You know, for a moment, You know, I've seen chaplains come in after someone's had, you know, knee surgery. And I really do sense that it helps them to forget what they're going through for even if it's a moment. Right. You know, and you know something? That to me is not bad medicine.

You know, for a moment, You know, I've seen chaplains come in after someone's had, you know, knee surgery. And I really do sense that it helps them to forget what they're going through for even if it's a moment. Right. You know, and you know something? That to me is not bad medicine.

Um, you know, I've seen chaplains help

Um, you know, I've seen chaplains help

And, you know, it also takes your mind off of something, too. It's just like, you know, I've had discussions with patients on what their favorite food is.

And, you know, it also takes your mind off of something, too. It's just like, you know, I've had discussions with patients on what their favorite food is.

you know because i'm telling them what they should eat you know going forward and they say well let's not have my favorite list of things to eat but let's then we go off of this tangent yeah and it really it's kind of nice because it takes the focus away from frankly the pain exactly yeah so i learned a lot a lot about people about their