Stan

So, you know, I keep saying, you know, a lot of things under this umbrella, um, it's easy for us to maybe say we've got communication issues. Okay. Which, which we do not only in this, but in a million other things. Um, however, you know, being, being solution oriented, if we can for, for, for a minute, um, Let's play this one out.

If somebody's got to go in for a procedure, you could probably think of your son, for instance. He's got to go in for a procedure. Well, automatically, everybody's stress level is heightened. What is it, based on your experience, what is it that would have been really good

If somebody's got to go in for a procedure, you could probably think of your son, for instance. He's got to go in for a procedure. Well, automatically, everybody's stress level is heightened. What is it, based on your experience, what is it that would have been really good

for you to hear or be aware of before one of your son's particular procedures that would have really helped you to keep that stress level down, which obviously that is going to help your son, you know, et cetera. Can you reflect on that a little bit?

for you to hear or be aware of before one of your son's particular procedures that would have really helped you to keep that stress level down, which obviously that is going to help your son, you know, et cetera. Can you reflect on that a little bit?

Or is there a system set up to to do something like that? That seems like a no brainer to me. Right. I don't know. There are certain programs that do, like in the cardiovascular arena, there's some programs that are called mended hearts. For somebody who has gone through heart surgery, for instance, and somebody who is facing it, they connect them. Wonderful. Absolutely wonderful.

Or is there a system set up to to do something like that? That seems like a no brainer to me. Right. I don't know. There are certain programs that do, like in the cardiovascular arena, there's some programs that are called mended hearts. For somebody who has gone through heart surgery, for instance, and somebody who is facing it, they connect them. Wonderful. Absolutely wonderful.

I can't imagine it not being a stress reducer. Yeah.

I can't imagine it not being a stress reducer. Yeah.

Yeah, or minimal. All right, so... Clarence, how do we get the gestalt around all of this? I mean, it's just like, okay, navigating the healthcare system. Oh my God. You know, just by saying that, you know, it increases your blood pressure. God knows how much. What should we be telling everybody out there in the listening audience?

Yeah, or minimal. All right, so... Clarence, how do we get the gestalt around all of this? I mean, it's just like, okay, navigating the healthcare system. Oh my God. You know, just by saying that, you know, it increases your blood pressure. God knows how much. What should we be telling everybody out there in the listening audience?

Yeah, I'm done. We should all get the Nobel Prize.

Yeah, I'm done. We should all get the Nobel Prize.

I think a doctor should hand this out to every patient.

I think a doctor should hand this out to every patient.

Well, I'll tell you, I don't know if we've solved anything. We've certainly put the issues out in the forefront. And I hope our listening audience realizes that you don't have to sit on your thumbs. You really don't. You can be an active participant in your own care, in the care of your loved ones, et cetera, and feel that you shouldn't be intimidated. Ask the right questions respectfully.

Well, I'll tell you, I don't know if we've solved anything. We've certainly put the issues out in the forefront. And I hope our listening audience realizes that you don't have to sit on your thumbs. You really don't. You can be an active participant in your own care, in the care of your loved ones, et cetera, and feel that you shouldn't be intimidated. Ask the right questions respectfully.

That's fine. It shows that you care in the sense that you hope that they care as well. Clarence, last thoughts.

That's fine. It shows that you care in the sense that you hope that they care as well. Clarence, last thoughts.

You know, I want to thank you as well. It's like, you know, personally, my takeaway from a show like this is it's okay to ask. It really is. Don't just assume, okay, you know, it's okay to say why or ask why or question something every once in a while. Or it is okay to be an advocate for a loved one. I mean, don't think that you have to be intimidated by doing that. And I think the more we say it,