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Happiness, sadness, angst, wellness, which is near and dear to all our hearts on this show.

So let's... Well, Sam, let me say something real quick.

Yes.

Yeah, absolutely.

Preventable.

So let's start out with...

your story and how you got into this all together.

And then we'll get into some of the health-related aspects of it all.

You know, did you have a sense that how you were being treated was normal?

when you were growing up?

Is this the way kids are all treated?

you know, we, we, you know, Clarence and, and, and Barry and myself, we come from public health and medical backgrounds and we're trained to look at things, um, perhaps simply in the sense of prevention, diagnosis and, and treatment.

Okay.

And, um,

One thing that struck me, at least, from reading the book is, wait a minute now, how can we get to the point where we can truly prevent these types of things from happening?

So, Barry, I'd really like to pull you in here.

I can only imagine that in your practice along the way, you dealt with patients with

medical oriented issues, but also maybe these types of mental health issues as well.

Yeah.

So Tom, you know, I've often said that if somebody says they don't have craziness in their family, they're either lying or they're all dead.