Stefan Passantino

It was, in my mind... still a legitimate area of inquiry for the Department of Justice. I didn't really think a lot of it at the time. Clearly, I'd never been the subject of a criminal investigation in my life. I don't hope to be again. But that conversation then happened. I then had to hire a lawyer to start providing all of the information. One of the things that was really interesting is the...

It was, in my mind... still a legitimate area of inquiry for the Department of Justice. I didn't really think a lot of it at the time. Clearly, I'd never been the subject of a criminal investigation in my life. I don't hope to be again. But that conversation then happened. I then had to hire a lawyer to start providing all of the information. One of the things that was really interesting is the...

It was, in my mind... still a legitimate area of inquiry for the Department of Justice. I didn't really think a lot of it at the time. Clearly, I'd never been the subject of a criminal investigation in my life. I don't hope to be again. But that conversation then happened. I then had to hire a lawyer to start providing all of the information. One of the things that was really interesting is the...

from the DOJ, you know, we want to know all of your communications with Tony Ornato, which I'd never had any. And we want all of your text messages and signal messages and everything with Cassidy Hutchinson and all of your other witnesses that you would write. I was clearly getting a forensic criminal audit from the Department of Justice.

from the DOJ, you know, we want to know all of your communications with Tony Ornato, which I'd never had any. And we want all of your text messages and signal messages and everything with Cassidy Hutchinson and all of your other witnesses that you would write. I was clearly getting a forensic criminal audit from the Department of Justice.

from the DOJ, you know, we want to know all of your communications with Tony Ornato, which I'd never had any. And we want all of your text messages and signal messages and everything with Cassidy Hutchinson and all of your other witnesses that you would write. I was clearly getting a forensic criminal audit from the Department of Justice.

was responding to that, but still didn't have super high blood pressure. I just thought that's just a cost of life of working in Washington and being a Trump lawyer. If you haven't been subpoenaed, I guess you haven't really practiced law in Washington, D.C., I guess. But it was only...

was responding to that, but still didn't have super high blood pressure. I just thought that's just a cost of life of working in Washington and being a Trump lawyer. If you haven't been subpoenaed, I guess you haven't really practiced law in Washington, D.C., I guess. But it was only...

was responding to that, but still didn't have super high blood pressure. I just thought that's just a cost of life of working in Washington and being a Trump lawyer. If you haven't been subpoenaed, I guess you haven't really practiced law in Washington, D.C., I guess. But it was only...

Later, when out of the blue, I learned that I was effectively going to be made the fall guy for obstruction, all of the obstruction that had happened for Cassidy Hutchinson. And that happened right... As a way to explain...

Later, when out of the blue, I learned that I was effectively going to be made the fall guy for obstruction, all of the obstruction that had happened for Cassidy Hutchinson. And that happened right... As a way to explain...

Later, when out of the blue, I learned that I was effectively going to be made the fall guy for obstruction, all of the obstruction that had happened for Cassidy Hutchinson. And that happened right... As a way to explain...

One could infer that that was in fact the purpose. And what had happened, which was shocking, the part that really just sort of upended my world and made me then realize the degree to which the institutions were all aligned to create a narrative that

One could infer that that was in fact the purpose. And what had happened, which was shocking, the part that really just sort of upended my world and made me then realize the degree to which the institutions were all aligned to create a narrative that

One could infer that that was in fact the purpose. And what had happened, which was shocking, the part that really just sort of upended my world and made me then realize the degree to which the institutions were all aligned to create a narrative that

to further a political purpose as opposed to anything else was, I think this was by December of 2022, I get a phone call from Pam Brown of CNN, who I had known previously, saying, hey, the committee has been talking that they are going to out the various people who are obstructing Congress, obstructing Cassidy Hutchinson. We are going to identify those people. I said, well, that's

to further a political purpose as opposed to anything else was, I think this was by December of 2022, I get a phone call from Pam Brown of CNN, who I had known previously, saying, hey, the committee has been talking that they are going to out the various people who are obstructing Congress, obstructing Cassidy Hutchinson. We are going to identify those people. I said, well, that's

to further a political purpose as opposed to anything else was, I think this was by December of 2022, I get a phone call from Pam Brown of CNN, who I had known previously, saying, hey, the committee has been talking that they are going to out the various people who are obstructing Congress, obstructing Cassidy Hutchinson. We are going to identify those people. I said, well, that's

Great, but I didn't have anything to do with that. And she says, no, we, CNN, are in possession of a transcript that Cassidy Hutchinson gave, a 150-page transcript that she gave on September 14th, in which she identifies you, Stefan, as the person who told her to lie, who couched her to say, I don't recall when I do all of these things. We're going to run with that story. And I said...

Great, but I didn't have anything to do with that. And she says, no, we, CNN, are in possession of a transcript that Cassidy Hutchinson gave, a 150-page transcript that she gave on September 14th, in which she identifies you, Stefan, as the person who told her to lie, who couched her to say, I don't recall when I do all of these things. We're going to run with that story. And I said...