Stefan Passantino

Yeah, well, I mean, what's particularly painful for me is that the basis of that conversation is to highlight the importance of ethics and the importance of government norms. Like, that's the message that's being conveyed. It's like, we're the party that reveres ethical behavior, and by us being here together, we show which side we're on. That's a very tough message for me to take.

Well, sure, because this is all fairly post-traumatic stress disorder for me. I mean, everything is, I mean, obviously my life has changed. My psychology has changed. I am not the same person I was. I am more difficult to be around. I do not trust clients. I am a very hard person to talk to at times because of this. You seem pretty balanced to me. You're kind. It's being in your presence.

Well, sure, because this is all fairly post-traumatic stress disorder for me. I mean, everything is, I mean, obviously my life has changed. My psychology has changed. I am not the same person I was. I am more difficult to be around. I do not trust clients. I am a very hard person to talk to at times because of this. You seem pretty balanced to me. You're kind. It's being in your presence.

Well, sure, because this is all fairly post-traumatic stress disorder for me. I mean, everything is, I mean, obviously my life has changed. My psychology has changed. I am not the same person I was. I am more difficult to be around. I do not trust clients. I am a very hard person to talk to at times because of this. You seem pretty balanced to me. You're kind. It's being in your presence.

I'm happy to do it. But it's very difficult. It's very, very difficult to trust clients. But it is one of those things where you have to make good come of bad things. You have to. And that's my mission.

I'm happy to do it. But it's very difficult. It's very, very difficult to trust clients. But it is one of those things where you have to make good come of bad things. You have to. And that's my mission.

I'm happy to do it. But it's very difficult. It's very, very difficult to trust clients. But it is one of those things where you have to make good come of bad things. You have to. And that's my mission.

Yeah, well, and you learn, and I mean... Clearly, it's easy for someone to feel sorry for themselves. It's easy for me to feel sorry. But there are people in prison right now who did nothing more than walk through, escorted through the grounds of the Capitol. There are people who are subjected to much worse than what I've been subjected to. And so you have to have a perspective.

Yeah, well, and you learn, and I mean... Clearly, it's easy for someone to feel sorry for themselves. It's easy for me to feel sorry. But there are people in prison right now who did nothing more than walk through, escorted through the grounds of the Capitol. There are people who are subjected to much worse than what I've been subjected to. And so you have to have a perspective.

Yeah, well, and you learn, and I mean... Clearly, it's easy for someone to feel sorry for themselves. It's easy for me to feel sorry. But there are people in prison right now who did nothing more than walk through, escorted through the grounds of the Capitol. There are people who are subjected to much worse than what I've been subjected to. And so you have to have a perspective.

In a lot of respects, I'm very fortunate. I have resources. I have means. I have contacts. I have very good friends who have the ability to make things happen. I'm not helpless in all of this. And this all happened to me. It makes me much more concerned for people who don't have access to all of those resources.

In a lot of respects, I'm very fortunate. I have resources. I have means. I have contacts. I have very good friends who have the ability to make things happen. I'm not helpless in all of this. And this all happened to me. It makes me much more concerned for people who don't have access to all of those resources.

In a lot of respects, I'm very fortunate. I have resources. I have means. I have contacts. I have very good friends who have the ability to make things happen. I'm not helpless in all of this. And this all happened to me. It makes me much more concerned for people who don't have access to all of those resources.

And it's my mission in life, like it's a lot of people's mission in life, to take care of those people. They can't do this. I can have some small say in that, and that's what I'm going to do.

And it's my mission in life, like it's a lot of people's mission in life, to take care of those people. They can't do this. I can have some small say in that, and that's what I'm going to do.

And it's my mission in life, like it's a lot of people's mission in life, to take care of those people. They can't do this. I can have some small say in that, and that's what I'm going to do.

Thank you for having me. I'm really grateful for that.

Thank you for having me. I'm really grateful for that.

Thank you for having me. I'm really grateful for that.