Stefan Rossler

I'm good.

I'm good with dealing people one-on-one.

And it's kind of, I think it's, it's, it's hard to, maybe, maybe it's the kind of the risk thing, because if you're dealing with people one-on-one, you can kind of look them in the eye and you can see, you can see what's going on.

You can talk about things.

And if you, if you scale it up to a, to a size where you, I don't know if you're handling thousands, millions of people, it could be getting out of hand.

And I want to go there with some confidence.

So, and as I, as I told you, the, the user brain things, the startup is really a,

kind of an expression of some place or kind of a second version of it.

And we want to go there eventually.

It's a completely different business model, but it's the exactly the same kind of people, uh, buying for it, paying for it.

So we want to make sure to understand these people on a kind of, on a level that's not just based on the current product we have,

But on the space, the problem space that those people are experiencing, because as you know, from SaaS businesses and all of this stuff, their products could be shifting a lot.

So kind of like going into this direction, that direction.

And I want to make sure that we really understand those people before we kind of do like something that's...

We started around 10 years ago to working together and I think we founded the company officially in 2010.

And so to give you kind of a feeling for the size, we started four people.

So four people who met in university and we kind of do that each of us has kind of the same share of the company and it's still the four people of us.

And we're thinking about hiring our first person in March and she's with us for a few months already.

uh, and we tried some different interns and all of this, but we're, I don't know, 10 years ago, we kind of sat together and said, well, let's try to keep this as small as possible for as long as possible.

I'm not really the numbers guy.