Steph Claire Smith

That's one part of being a creative.

I will enjoy it.

No, but that is like one tiny part of being a creative.

Like your creative thinking, your way of connecting with community.

There's so much in being a creative, which you absolutely are.

I mean, you're a fucking content creator.

Like you wouldn't have a following if you were shit at all.

If you were not creative, like what?

So I just also want to reiterate and I do know that some of those things that, you know, you were better at than me didn't mean that they were necessarily something that you thought is a strength of yours.

But something I did notice over that process and also now that I want to reiterate to you knowing like that our role has changed to I suppose be a little bit more creative and in that way is

is to reassure you that you are absolutely a creative.

You need to know that.

So if there isn't as much of the other stuff that's in your role now that you did feel like you were pretty good at and kind of validated you, I need you to know that you're also creative.

I just, yeah, I just really want you to know that because, yeah, I think, I mean, we've touched on your transition experience

And I'm sure there's going to be many more times because it's going to be a big one.

But I just want you to know that in going into this role of the way that you've defined us in the past, I've never once not thought of you as creative.

So I just don't want you to think that whilst we've complimented each other, that you now have something to envy of me because you don't.

Well, you shouldn't.

Thanks, Steffi.

I feel like though I want to now ask you –