Steph Claire Smith

And people almost assume, oh, she's just naturally gifted, naturally smart.

It comes easy to her because you would have probably then sat with, are you fucking kidding me?

I sat 12 hours in a library every single day.

So it's just funny how like what we hear and then what we hold on to, you're right in that we are that person that like makes it so much worse for ourselves and then therefore says worse things ongoing from there.

Because yeah, that comment could have been very different.

She could have said like, yeah, but Laura's so smart.

Like, of course, like I would never be able to get it.

And then that would have made you think like, hang on, this didn't come easy to me.

Like I worked really hard for this.

Acknowledge that.

Like validate me and my hours.

And I wonder, so that was my comment around that.

But then I also wonder, I know you said that outside of that comment, most of this has just kind of come from your own place of why you've driven to be that way or whatever.

Yeah.

But why did you go for McRob?

Like why did you, why from a young age did you define success that way?

Yeah, Steffi or Steff, all the way.

A lot of people say, hi, Steph Claire.

I'm like, no, no, no.

I'm not like Mary-Kate Olsen.