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How Laura is rebuilding her confidence

14 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What insecurities has Laura been dealing with?

3.541 - 12.77 Laura Henshaw

So I feel like I have to completely restart working on my confidence again, which has been quite unsettling.

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19.976 - 22.659 Steph Claire Smith

Hello. Hi. How are you?

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22.879 - 34.16 Laura Henshaw

Good. Good. How are you? Good. That's good. I do have a question for you. Okay. A question for you and for the listeners. Yeah. Okay. Have you recently put on a blazer?

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36.562 - 42.252 Steph Claire Smith

Oh my God. No. You know what? I went to do it the other day and it felt wrong.

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42.553 - 63.484 Laura Henshaw

Why does it feel wrong? I don't know. I don't know. So a blazer last year was my... Go-to layering. Yeah. It was just like I didn't have to think about it. I put it on. I felt good. You're wearing one right now. I know. And I don't know how I feel. And actually, I think I'm going to take it off because...

63.464 - 71.582 Laura Henshaw

because I am putting blazers on and I've known it to be, like, obviously I'm not, like, a high fashion girly.

Chapter 2: How does Laura feel about wearing a blazer now?

72.945 - 88.968 Laura Henshaw

Like, I don't really feel like I need to wear all the trends. Like, if I like a trend, of course I'll wear it. Yeah, yeah. But I don't, like... think about, I don't know, it's not, I do like fashion, but I just don't classify myself as like a fashion advisor, you know, per se when we're categorising fashion.

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89.65 - 95.226 Laura Henshaw

So I don't, if I have things that were like on trend last season and then aren't like now that...

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95.206 - 95.987 Steph Claire Smith

mean you're not going to wear it. Yeah.

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96.007 - 119.093 Laura Henshaw

Like for example, what's trending right now is the, or I've seen in my fashion analysis, is like that windbreaker type jacket that's like very high neck. Like a lot of brands have done, I feel like a bomber, but sometimes, or bomber, but then also really high neck thing. I, bombers, I wear and I don't feel like myself. High neck, I just don't feel, I just feel like they're uncomfortable.

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119.113 - 135.188 Laura Henshaw

I don't like something touching my face. So those are just things that I'm like, not for me. I'm going to put on my old trusty blazer. I put it on and it feels weird. And as I talk about this, maybe I am more influenced than I think because I feel like no one is wearing blazers at the moment.

135.449 - 138.477 Steph Claire Smith

Yeah, but I think it's also you're spending less time in an office space.

139.57 - 161.359 Laura Henshaw

Yeah, but I wore a blazer out for dinner. Yeah, that's true. I wore it all the time. Like I totally, yes, but I also don't, like for example, getting my daily, my day, daily, my day of the week where I get dressed up is to the podcast. Yeah. I'm actually using it as a test of like what is my postpartum style. Yeah. So I'll like wear things and be like how did I feel in that. Yeah, yeah.

161.339 - 164.543 Steph Claire Smith

Because day to day you're just wearing like loungewear or gym wear or something.

164.643 - 164.783 Laura Henshaw

Yeah.

Chapter 3: What does Laura's experience with blazers reveal about her confidence?

164.803 - 177.618 Laura Henshaw

Yeah, yeah. But also so interesting, when I get home from a podcast, I literally have a shower and get changed in one second because I'm not feeling super comfortable in like more dressy clothes right now. And also I don't want to get dog hair on them, so I get changed anyway when I get home.

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177.638 - 187.248 Steph Claire Smith

Fair enough. Also, I think that's a big thing with blazers is like when you have a child from zero to two, Like, within a second, there's going to be snot on it.

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187.469 - 200.896 Laura Henshaw

Yeah. Well, most of them, you can't wash on the washing machine, so it adds to the admin list of take it to the dry cleaner or just try to wipe it as much as possible. Exactly. But we digress. However, the point is... Blazers feel weird for me.

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200.976 - 201.276 Steph Claire Smith

Yes.

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201.357 - 213.457 Laura Henshaw

I agree. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know why. They're feeling more work-like. I agree. And that's the thing. So I usually would wear them like to dinner, whatever. Now when I put them on, I would like, oh, this feels good and not like I'm at work.

213.497 - 213.737 Steph Claire Smith

Yeah.

214.258 - 215.861 Laura Henshaw

But now, and also at peak.

215.881 - 217.924 Steph Claire Smith

Maybe that's because it was a huge part of your identity.

218.377 - 240.328 Laura Henshaw

I think this is a general problem. I feel like other people that if you have not transitioned from an executive role into a founder role, you might also feel this way about blazers. But let me know. But yes, I used to wear them. Now when I put them on, like right now, I feel like I'm like corporate. Yeah, I get that. Whereas before I just felt more casual and like it was just part of my outfit.

Chapter 4: How does Laura's past influence her current self-perception?

320.872 - 324.637 Laura Henshaw

But our decisions that we make here. Actually. Is what informed your.

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324.657 - 324.998 Steph Claire Smith

Totally.

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325.158 - 325.539 Laura Henshaw

Bargain.

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325.639 - 326.039 Steph Claire Smith

Psychotic.

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326.66 - 342.844 Laura Henshaw

Whatever the exact sentence is. You know, she just made me think of it and it then made me remember I have it like, I love this movie. I love it so much. I had it on DVD growing up and I didn't have a lot of DVDs so I watched it 4,000 times. It was a big part of my identity. I will watch it again with you. Okay.

343.386 - 344.469 Steph Claire Smith

If you need someone to go with.

344.489 - 350.224 Laura Henshaw

I'm honestly at the point where I think I'm going to have to go solo because it's just like trying to find the time to go to see it.

350.424 - 354.274 Steph Claire Smith

Yeah. And you've got to do it soon, otherwise it starts to get really random times.

354.507 - 375.418 Laura Henshaw

Yeah. Actually, can I share another fun fact about it? On the weekend, almost caved. Well, I couldn't cave because I was unable to. I would have if I could have. Okay. And I was like to Dalton, why don't we just buy it? You know when now on streaming you can rent things very early and it's like expensive. They charge like $29.99. But you can often watch a movie that is in the cinemas. Yes.

Chapter 5: What role does societal expectation play in Laura's confidence?

487.728 - 489.25 Steph Claire Smith

You don't need to fill this space anymore.

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489.27 - 489.45 Shiloh Kulaia

Wow.

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489.751 - 518.746 Steph Claire Smith

Okay, go. It's probably not that great. But anyway. You know what I do find that I miss about having my go-to blazer? It's simple. It's effective. You know, it takes the guesswork out. You just get it on. You're warmer. You're layered. You feel sophisticated and chic. Taking guesswork out, simple, effective, that is a blazer. That was a blazer for me. And that is what? Wait. Mills hybrid program.

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518.766 - 524.424 Laura Henshaw

Oh, yeah. Okay, I do have one piece of feedback. What? Where's the link to Devil Wears Prada?

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524.845 - 533.573 Steph Claire Smith

Oh, I didn't link that. No, sorry. Fuck, I have to do a trifecta link? You do. That was good, though. I don't think there's a link to Devil Wears Prada.

534.674 - 563.054 Laura Henshaw

Ah, show you bringing the big gun. Yeah, go for it. Can I say? Sure. I am a small gun. Especially now with a blended brain. Okay, I... Something... that I have been missing, that I also feel like if I did, would make me feel good, which the blazer is not making me feel. Devil Wears Prada would make me feel. Mills Hybrid Training Program would also make me feel.

566.199 - 568.081 Steph Claire Smith

Shall I just get into the answer?

568.321 - 569.483 Laura Henshaw

Wait, rate it out of ten.

569.623 - 572.027 Steph Claire Smith

No, good. I don't want to put a number to it.

Chapter 6: How does Laura reflect on her childhood experiences?

732.9 - 745.203 Steph Claire Smith

And I think that that's been something that getting to know Mills, something that I really related to her on. was sometimes you just feel like with your training, you want to spice it up, mix it up and be really excited by it. And her workouts are that.

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745.484 - 764.899 Steph Claire Smith

You get the strength and conditioning and you feel strong and empowered, but you get your heart rate up and you can have a bit of fun with it too. And I think... The new craze has been like high rocks, right? And everyone's been talking about it and thinking about it. And I think one day it's actually something I want to do. I'm going to say that now on the podcast. So wear it on your life.

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765.239 - 779.743 Steph Claire Smith

It's AK Run. I want to do it. I really want to do it. Can we do it together? Sure. I have told Mills I'll do it with her one time too, but yes, let's do it. I really, I think because for me it's challenging. It's hard.

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780.095 - 804.735 Steph Claire Smith

But when I've done meals as hybrid workouts, it's like this light inside of me is reignited because after years of redefining my relationship with movement, things like cardio or like conditioning in that way that I used to hate but push myself to do, I then avoided for years because I only had that relationship with it.

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805.39 - 826.403 Steph Claire Smith

And now getting to do like a strength and conditioning workout where there's a bit of everything and I am challenged, I just approach it in such a different way and I feel really energized by it and really good about it. And I think when I have been able to do her classes and stuff, it has kind of sparked this idea of like, yes, that would be next level challenging.

826.568 - 828.152 Steph Claire Smith

but maybe I'd really enjoy it.

828.653 - 848.234 Laura Henshaw

Oh, I love that. I agree. What I love about hybrid workouts, like right now, I'm very excited for this. I don't know when I'm going to get into them, but this is my, I feel like my next phase of my movement journey, getting back into it. I love getting my heart rate up in a workout, but I don't want to do 45 minutes or 30 minutes of HIIT.

848.915 - 865.966 Laura Henshaw

And I also know and I keep seeing like how important resistance and strength training is for us, like for our functionality, for our bone health, et cetera. And so I want to do it all in one because when I do a strength workout on its own, I don't. Get bored. I just like, I'm like, oh, I don't get that like. Yeah, that's fair.

865.986 - 878.693 Laura Henshaw

That little bit of challenge moment, like you really get your heart rate up. So I also don't lift super heavy. I know if you lift super heavy, you can't get your heart rate up. That's where you get it up. Exactly. Yeah. But for that reason, I love it. And it's structure around that. Yeah.

Chapter 7: What strategies does Laura suggest for rebuilding confidence?

1220.896 - 1223.999 Laura Henshaw

And, yeah, I just have a newfound respect for Kylie. Wow.

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1224.259 - 1224.64 Steph Claire Smith

Amazing.

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1224.68 - 1249.454 Laura Henshaw

So, yes, highly, really recommend the doco if you didn't listen to it. What should I mean? Okay, now, let me open my journal. As I said last week, I did avoid answering. And I also just want to say... But you and Lynne, so you got me. You got me because you reminded us that these episodes continue to come out. So if we don't have space in one, next week will always come.

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1251.777 - 1253.839 Laura Henshaw

Unless you – let me just be clear.

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1254.099 - 1255.261 Steph Claire Smith

Oh, my God, of course.

1255.281 - 1261.828 Laura Henshaw

Sorry, sorry. There's no forcing. There's no forcing here. No, no, no. There's no forcing. It's just helping an avoidant girl out. Okay.

1261.808 - 1282.992 Laura Henshaw

Now, I just also want to preface, and I said this to both you and Lindsay before, but I need to say to the listeners, I am very conscious of how much I have shared in the past few weeks about how I am feeling and navigating, and I just don't want this to become some self-fulfilling story Space, which, I mean, we have our own podcast.

1283.012 - 1286.418 Steph Claire Smith

True. We are the hosts of our own podcast. There is an element of that.

1286.618 - 1298.599 Laura Henshaw

I just don't want to, like, I don't know. I don't want you to think that I'm, number one, I don't want to come on here and, like, be this downer for everyone because that just doesn't feel very good.

Chapter 8: What is the significance of Shiloh's perspective on to-do lists?

1753.849 - 1772.852 Laura Henshaw

Don't worry. We will not. But it is something, it was actually a really eye-opening reflection to do. So I really recommend, if last week maybe it prompted you to do it, if it didn't, I would have a think about, like, what are the things you're holding onto the stories? How do you undo them?

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1773.373 - 1792.572 Laura Henshaw

But then also are they, because what I just explained, there was that kind of comment that someone made around the fact that I wouldn't have got my score if I didn't work hard. So that definitely added to it. But I think the insecurity rooted within me and the stories that I have told myself and also how hard I am on myself. is like what is at the root of the person.

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1792.612 - 1800.948 Laura Henshaw

And I wrote in my journal last night, I think what was really hard in reflecting on this is the person who has, oh my God, I can't, oh, said, I have the worst handwriting.

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1800.968 - 1802.812 Steph Claire Smith

You can't even read your own handwriting. Yeah, but I can love it.

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1805.296 - 1817.227 Laura Henshaw

Is the person who has said the meanest things to me is me. Which I know a lot of people will probably relate to and be the same. But, yeah, I was like, wow, what's the worst thing anyone's ever said to me? And, like, wouldn't be worse than what I've said to myself.

1817.247 - 1839.977 Steph Claire Smith

Yeah. Couldn't be. It's sad, isn't it? Can I ask? Because I feel like you're trying to wrap this up. We're not putting a bow on it yet. Is that two things. That comment that you have told me about before that someone said, I think that comes from so many places around. number one, could be a projection of their own efforts.

1841.379 - 1868.289 Steph Claire Smith

But also, I think in a way, they might have just, again, in a high school-y, sarcastic kind of way, wanted to also acknowledge the work that you had put into it. Because would you have liked to have gotten the result that you had and not been acknowledged for the amount of time that you put in to get to there? It's a very good point.

1868.329 - 1880.661 Steph Claire Smith

And people almost assume, oh, she's just naturally gifted, naturally smart. It comes easy to her because you would have probably then sat with, are you fucking kidding me? I sat 12 hours in a library every single day.

1880.841 - 1902.383 Steph Claire Smith

So it's just funny how like what we hear and then what we hold on to, you're right in that we are that person that like makes it so much worse for ourselves and then therefore says worse things ongoing from there. Because yeah, that comment could have been very different. She could have said like, yeah, but Laura's so smart. Like, of course, like I would never be able to get it.

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