Steph McGovern

But we always get hit hardest.

You know, take the situation with Iran now in the Middle East.

It's us that everyone's talking about as being the inflation.

But, you know, we're going to be hit hardest by inflation.

So what can we do about that as well?

So we stop hearing chancellors blame all these geopolitical situations that we have no control over.

So one quick question then, because I know Robert's got another one on that then.

If you're saying, you know, we are the commentators of not getting it right.

They think we're hit hardest, but we're not.

But the bond markets react as well, don't they?

And that is an immediate impact.

That is instantly the borrowing costs go up.

So it's not just about people talking about it.

There is a genuine, tangible impact.

And also, I just want to make that point on capitalism, because I think people think that if you are not living in one of these wealthy areas, you don't want to make loads of money for yourself.

But you do.

There's plenty of people in Middlesbrough, but also all over the country, not in the media and political bubble we're in, who do want to make money for themselves and make profit and do what they like with it.

So it's not that.

But it's your point of there's no opportunity to do that and certainly no opportunity to stay where they are.

They have to move to do it.