Steph McGovern

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4,755 appearances 54 recordings 6 series first heard Nov 2025 last heard 3d ago

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The Rest Is Money · 309. Why we’re wasting our time predicting the future of AI · 30 Aug 2026 podcast

So coming to some of the more specifics around around your work and and and what you're doing at the institute, one of the big things you you guys are pushing for is this national open source AI lab. voice-verified

Before we get into the lab and how that's going to work, can you just explain what open source AI is? voice-verified

you mean like if we built a UK version of ChatGBT? voice-verified

Because these are closed source and the the Claude and all the others, your grocks and everything else, they're all closed source AI? voice-verified

But wouldn't that wouldn't there still be a reliance on US tech firms in terms of the software and things you need to do it? voice-verified

Like the you know, the the the the components of it, wouldn't they wouldn't you still be reliant on on US tech firms for that? voice-verified

But that would involve some s type of collaboration which, you know, f feels a bit voice-verified

So so tell me how this would work for something like the NHS, because we've seen, haven't we, NHS England kind of restrict any open source voice-verified

I guess repositories that they've got because of, you know, worries about these bad actors that might be able to scan the code and then find the vulnerabilities. voice-verified

And so how would it work with something like the NHS? voice-verified

I mean, I I think that that is voice-verified

But there is a chance that before anyone nice tells you about it, someone bad does something terrible with it. voice-verified

Okay, so let's say in this uh 'cause it feels a bit like a utopia to me in terms of like getting everyone to to to agree to help. voice-verified

But let's say you're right and that th this is the case and we have this open source lab. voice-verified

How does it work? voice-verified

Who's working for them? voice-verified

Is this British private businesses? voice-verified

How many how much of it is I I I guess, I don't know, engineers working for the civil service? voice-verified

How does this work? voice-verified

So you so you wouldn't be worried about the attracting the talent because you know, my concern would be they'd all be in Silicon Valley, early loads, more money. voice-verified

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