Steph McGovern

I grew up in Middlesbrough.

I know this.

I am growing up in an area where steel has been absolutely vital to the local economy and I've watched the hardship of people who've lost jobs in it.

But life

goes on and it's about reskilling those people like we're seeing happening in the oil sector.

You know, the lads I know, because it is many lads, who've left that sector, retrained and gone into renewables.

And OK, it hasn't been a perfect system of transition, but there are things happening there which are working.

And it's really important to be forward looking in terms of growth and not be clinging on to the past

But anyway, let's go to a quick break and then afterwards, shall we talk about then the leadership contenders and what they might do for the economy?

You know, where does West Street and Angela Rayner, Andy Burnham stand on all of this?

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