Stephan Goss

Um,

And it really kind of got started like a kind of unique problem that we ran into.

So at the time I was like 22.

I just left Switzerland.

So I'm originally from Switzerland.

I left when I was 19.

I think weirdly enough at that time, I'd literally just spent the last 10 months living in a tent, um, like 10 feet from a runway in New York.

Cause I was a professional skydiver at the time.

And I decided that did not, was not potentially my calling forever.

So I moved to San Diego and that's kind of where it got started on samples.com.

At that point, I was 23.

OK.

23, that's right.

So either way, at that point, I was foreign.

So I kind of just figured out I had to make money online because I couldn't really get a job.

And so at the time, we're like the three of us.

And we're making like $1,000 a day kind of like running ad campaigns just on the internet.

So it was pretty good.

So we're basically just buying ads based on Facebook, collecting some information, and then sending users on.

So that was the samples.com get a free model.