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Stephanie Coontz

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Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

Well, I've been studying the history of family life for many, many years, but I specifically got interested in marriage as we got into these debates about what traditional marriage was.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

Marriage originally arose in more egalitarian band level societies as a way of sharing resources and establishing peaceful relations with groups that you might otherwise only see occasionally and you might not know if they were going to be friends or enemies.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

I marry my child off to you and that means you owe me things but I also owe you things.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

Well, then Caesar died, and Mark Anthony came along.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

And, of course, the story tells that she seduced him.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

But, you know, when you really look at what was happening practically, this was another political alliance.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

First, as did Caesar.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

And Anthony could rule in his place.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

So it was a great big political alliance, just like Game of Thrones.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

So people who were bakers married other bakers.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

This clip you used is perfect because it illustrates the fact that men found it easier to embrace the love match than women did.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

Men could marry down because they could go out and earn wages.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

Women had to be very, very cautious.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

You know, as you could say, my heart inclines to Harry, but, you know, I'd better marry who my parents want me to and the person who is most likely to be able to support me.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

And so there was a prolonged period of time where men actually were more romantic than women in the courtship arena.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

And you got this new theory that love was a union of opposites.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

Well, absolutely.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

But what's interesting about this clip is that the concept of the male breadwinner was unknown before the 19th century.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

Women worked in the home, but so did men.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

And men didn't go out and bring home the bacon.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

Women helped raise the pig.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

Maybe the man butchered it, but the woman often cured the bacon and took the bacon to market.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

So, again, this was part of this new idea of love that I talked about earlier.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

the idea that men and women were so different that the man had to do all the outside stuff because the woman couldn't do it, and the woman had to do all the inside stuff because the man couldn't do it and wasn't supposed to do it.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

You know, it's important to understand that love itself, the definition has changed.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

It's different today than it was at the beginning of the love match when it was a union of opposites.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

And today it's really like a union of people who share so many values.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

Since my children were young, I've lost both my parents to cancer, had to manage the business of death and of grieving on my own as being an only child.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

And my children also had witnessed a violent attack that happened on the porch of our old home.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

I also found out that I had two rare medical conditions.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

One of them took a few years and a lot of stress to get diagnosed, and the other one just requires a lot of stressful surveillance.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

So this is just a short part of the list.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

but I definitely felt the pressure for a redemptive spin on my life and basically I spent my last several years just dealing with the fallout of this I have no elevator pitch to give to people at parties about you know how my life has somehow come to a meaningful culmination out of all of this but I

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

You know, I guess what's gotten me through is just that I realized that we were hit by an onslaught of events that most of which were out of our control.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

And we bear the scars, but we're still putting one foot in front of the other.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

And our story is still continuing.

Hidden Brain
Love 2.0: Reimagining Our Relationships

Thank you.