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Stephanie Flanders

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Bloomberg Tech
Intel Falls as Manufacturing Snags Bedevil Comeback

Beijing will let them in.

Bloomberg Tech
Intel Falls as Manufacturing Snags Bedevil Comeback

Yeah, this is a very closely watched drama.

Bloomberg Tech
Intel Falls as Manufacturing Snags Bedevil Comeback

Of course, Nvidia used to sell lots of AI chips into the China market, but Washington and Beijing have been battling over exactly what kind of chips are going to be sold and what kind of volume.

Bloomberg Tech
Intel Falls as Manufacturing Snags Bedevil Comeback

Washington has stopped the most advanced chips from

Bloomberg Tech
Intel Falls as Manufacturing Snags Bedevil Comeback

going into the market.

Bloomberg Tech
Intel Falls as Manufacturing Snags Bedevil Comeback

But the Trump administration did approve these H200 chips to be sold into the market.

Bloomberg Tech
Intel Falls as Manufacturing Snags Bedevil Comeback

It wasn't clear whether Beijing was going to let its tech companies buy these chips now.

Bloomberg Tech
Intel Falls as Manufacturing Snags Bedevil Comeback

And what we're hearing from sources is that they have given the go-ahead for the key companies you mentioned, Alibaba, Tencent, and ByteDance.

Bloomberg Tech
Intel Falls as Manufacturing Snags Bedevil Comeback

to prepare their orders, to tell them how much they want to buy from NVIDIA, and then they're going to make decisions about when exactly this is going to happen.

Bloomberg Tech
Intel Falls as Manufacturing Snags Bedevil Comeback

It's going to come with some caveats.

Bloomberg Tech
Intel Falls as Manufacturing Snags Bedevil Comeback

They do still want to build up the domestic industry.

Bloomberg Tech
Intel Falls as Manufacturing Snags Bedevil Comeback

They want these companies to also purchase from some of the domestic players, which include Huawei Technologies and CameraCon, as we've talked about in the show a few times before.

Bloomberg Tech
Intel Falls as Manufacturing Snags Bedevil Comeback

But it looks like they're going to be able to go ahead with those H200s.

Bloomberg Tech
Intel Falls as Manufacturing Snags Bedevil Comeback

Yeah, those caveats also include restrictions, right?

Bloomberg Tech
Intel Falls as Manufacturing Snags Bedevil Comeback

On both sides of this negotiation, there is agreement that the Chinese officials that we're hearing from talking about there will not be access when it comes to sensitive industries, things like that.

Bloomberg Tech
Intel Falls as Manufacturing Snags Bedevil Comeback

Just break that down, Peter.

Bloomberg Tech
Intel Falls as Manufacturing Snags Bedevil Comeback

Yeah, they're concerned.

Bloomberg Tech
Intel Falls as Manufacturing Snags Bedevil Comeback

They've said this before with the H20 chips and now the H200 chips.

Bloomberg Tech
Intel Falls as Manufacturing Snags Bedevil Comeback

They're concerned they don't want NVIDIA's chips going into sensitive areas like the military, like state-owned enterprises or government agencies for that case.

Bloomberg Tech
Intel Falls as Manufacturing Snags Bedevil Comeback

So the market's going to be narrower than what it would be otherwise.