Stephanie Ramos

So first off, I wanted to ask you, I had forgotten, this was one of your first big sort of 2020 investigations that you were sort of leading the charge on. What was it like just as a reporter, you know, learning about this case and going through it all? Yeah, it was so interesting. I had admired the 2020 team for so many years. They were absolutely brilliant. And I wanted to work on something long form like this for a while. And I learned so much just about the process of putting together a long piece like this, where you have...

so many different characters, so many different people that you're interviewing and you're gaining information from and then you're weaving all of this together. And trying to figure out kind of like who knows what when too. It seems so specific to this case. What was interesting about this is that

We were waiting for the sentencing. So as we were putting this together during the summer and making those trips to Chevy Chase and interviewing the neighbors and Brett Reedy, we still hadn't heard from Eugene in court. There's still news breaking as you're putting it together. Exactly. We're watching it all in real time. So it was just fascinating. It was great to really work on this. And I think just...

It's horrific. And I spoke with Lauren at length, Leslie Prier's daughter, while we were working on this 2020 episode.

All of these years she had no idea who did this to her mother. She said that her life would be so much different if her mother was here. And she just was holding out hope for so many years. She was coming to the realization that she would never know who did this to her mother. And then she gets the call from these two detectives who say, ''We've been assigned to this case. We're going to figure out who did this to your mother.''

Kun puhuin Loryn kanssa ja hän puhui siitä hetkeä, kun hän ymmärsi, että se oli Eugene Gligor, hän oli yllättynyt oppimaan siitä, miksi hän teki tätä. Hän melkein pysähtyi.

Tämä on oikeastaan niin. Kulttuurit, Tara Augustin ja Alison Dupois, keskustelivat Eugene Gligorsin isästä, Andréa Gligoraa. Tämä tapahtui, kun Eugene oli vahvistettu. Tämän jälkeen hän on ylipäätään ylipäätään ylipäätään ylipäätään ylipäätään ylipäätään ylipäätään ylipäätään ylipäätään ylipäätään ylipäätään ylipäätään ylipäätään ylipäätään ylipäätään ylipäätään ylipäätään ylipäätään ylipäätään ylipäätään ylipäätään ylipäätään ylipäätään ylipäätään ylipäätään ylipäät

So Eugene and Andre, they both grew up in the same home, same neighborhood. And this is an upper middle class neighborhood. It's very nice. Front lawns are gorgeous. The homes are great. Everyone has some sort of interesting career in Washington, D.C. Because it's just outside of D.C. in Chevy Chase. And their home was just a few minutes away from the prayer house. So it was walking distance. There's this park in the neighborhood that connects all of these different places.

It's a very interesting neighborhood. But they lived nearby with their parents. And their father was born in Romania. Their mother was American. One was an academic, a teacher at a university there in D.C. And the other parent was a World Bank employee. So really solid jobs. Andre and Eugene's parents divorced when...

Eugene was in high school. The brothers are four years apart. So Andre's a little older. Why did detectives reach out to Andre then? What do they think he could offer? Okay, so I'm going to take you back to 2024. So these cold case detectives, Tara Augustin and Allison Dupois, they were looking for a person that the unknown male DNA belonged to from the crime scene. This is the DNA that was found at the crime scene at the home of Leslie Preer. So they used genetic genealogy and it led them to the name

Gligor.

We know and detectives know that Lauren dated a guy by the name of Eugene Gligor. So they've got the name Gligor in their case file and they know that there was this family living nearby, living near the prayer house with the name Gligor. So they've got Eugene, Andre and the father. They told us if that DNA did not match Eugene, Andre was going to be next on their list. Because the DNA is pointing us in a direction. The DNA is pointing us to Gligor, yes.

Kyllä, Yujin Gligorille. He sanoivat, että jos se DNA ei sopiva Yujin Gligorille, Andrei voisi olla meidän kaverimme. Mutta tietysti Yujin DNA tuli takaisin sopivaan ja tutkimukset nopeasti valitsivat hänen isänsä Andrei ja hänen isänsä mahdolliset syrjinnät.

So, Eugene was arrested in June of 2024. In July, just the following month, detectives asked Andre to come in for an interview. So that's when they spoke with him. They wanted to find out if he could add anything, any information, like what he knew or didn't know about Eugene from the time of the murder. And it turned out that Andre did have some details to add. And when we come back, we will hear more about what some of those details were. We're back in a bit.

All right, we are back with Stephanie Ramos. So Stephanie, at this point, Eugene Gligor has been arrested. Detectives call in his brother, Andre Gligor, to ask him some questions. What do they say? What does he say? Okay, so it's summer of 2024. The detectives, Augustin and Dupois, they match the DNA sample from the crime scene to Eugene Gligor. Authorities arrest Eugene Gligor sitting on a stoop outside his apartment in Washington, D.C. And then a few weeks later, detectives ask Andre to come in.

Täällä on video tästä keskustelusta. Täällä on neljä asiakkaita, kaksi kivikäytäntöä, André ja Andrén tutkija. Mennään esiin Andrélle. Hän näyttää hyvin samanlaiseen kuin Eugene. He ovat kivikäytäntöisiä, heillä on rauhoja, heillä on rauhoja.

Ja tutkijat halusivat tietää enemmän. He halusivat nähdä, että tämä on tunnettu taitajan isä. Mitä hän voisikin tietää? Oliko hän kuullut mitään sen aikana? Mitä uusia tietoja hän voisikin antaa? Joten tutkijat aloittivat kysymään Andréa perustuksesta Preer-yhteisölle. Oletko sinä koskaan tapannut Laurenin vanhemmat, Leslie ja Carl? Kyllä, kyllä. Oletko sinä koskaan ollut heidän kaupunginsa? Kyllä, kyllä.

So Andre goes on to tell them about his pet sitting at the prayer house that he had watched the prayers dog. So remember in the first episode when Brett Reedy, Leslie's coworker, arrived at the prayer home. They go inside. Clearly something has gone wrong. And Brett Reedy gets a bit spooked by the basement door. It starts opening super slow. So at this point he tells us he's thinking, is this.

Onko Leslie ylös? Onko hän syntynyt? Onko hänellä jotain? Onko hänellä jotain? Onko hänellä jotain? Onko hänellä jotain? Onko hänellä jotain? Onko hänellä jotain?

Entree kertoo tutkijoille, että hän katsoi Boomeria muutamaa kertaa, ja että Preereille antoi hänelle kiviä tai jätettiin jostain, jota hän pystyi käyttämään. Hän oli melko ymmärtävä tätä kotia. Se näyttää tärkeältä, että hän sanoo, että hän tietää Preereiden perhe. Hän oli ainakin yhteydessä heidän kanssaan.