Blood and Water: Bonus: The Brother
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What is the background of the Blood and Water series?
This is Debra Roberts here with the final episode of our latest true crime series from 2020 and ABC Audio, Blood and Water. If you aren't caught up, you can still go back and listen through the whole series. Just search Blood and Water on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, or your favorite podcast app. Now, here's the final episode of Blood & Water.
Now, here's the final episode of Blood & Water. Hey, I'm Brad Milkey, host of ABC's Start Here podcast.
And if you're joining us, it's because you just listened to the latest series from ABC Audio in 2020, Blood and Water. In this series, a 20-year-old murder case was reexamined. The killer turned out to be the person nobody would have expected. Leslie Prier was murdered by her daughter's high school boyfriend, Eugene Gligor.
Who was Eugene Gligor and what was his involvement in the murder case?
Gligor initially denied he was responsible, but later admitted his guilt in court. Stephanie Ramos reported the story for 2020 last year, and of course, hosted this podcast. And today, I've got Stephanie here with me to ask exactly what it was like reporting out the story. And she's got some fresh reporting that you have not heard yet. Stephanie, thanks so much for being here.
Thank you, Brad. It's great to be here.
So first off, I wanted to ask you, I had forgotten this was one of your first like big sort of 2020 investigations that you were sort of leading the charge on. What was it like just as a reporter, you know, learning about this case and going through it all?
Yeah, it was so interesting.
What was Stephanie Ramos's experience reporting on this case?
I had admired the 2020 team for so many years. They were absolutely brilliant. And I wanted to work on something long form like this for a while. And I learned so much just about the process of putting together a long piece like this where you have... So many different characters, so many different people that you're interviewing and you're gaining information from and then you're weaving all of this together.
And trying to figure out kind of like who knows what, when, too. It seems so specific to this case.
What was interesting about this is that We were waiting for the sentencing. So as we were putting this together during the summer and making those trips to Chevy Chase and interviewing the neighbors and Brett Reedy, we still hadn't heard from Eugene in court.
How did the detectives approach interviewing Eugene Gligor's brother?
There's still news breaking as you're putting it together.
Exactly. We're watching it all in real time. So it was just fascinating. It was great to really work on this. And I think just... Being able to sit down with Lauren Prier, Leslie's daughter, and have her trust us to tell her story and for her to be so open. This can't be easy for her.
And that's the thing is when we first discovered Eugene Gligor was responsible for killing Leslie Prier, I couldn't stop thinking about Lauren. Because how do you even begin to wrap your mind around the idea that the person you went to prom with, you probably haven't thought about them most days since then, murdered your mom?
What insights did Andre Gligor provide during his interview?
It's horrific. And I spoke with Lauren at length, Leslie Prier's daughter, while we were working on this 2020 episode. And All of these years, she had no idea who did this to her mother. She said that her life would be so much different if her mother was here. And she just was holding out hope for so many years. She was coming to the realization that she would never know who did this to her mother. And then she gets the call from these two detectives who say, we've been assigned to this case. We're going to figure out who did this to your mother. So when I spoke with Lauren and she talked about that moment when she found out it was Eugene Gligor, she was shocked to learn who did this.
Why was Eugene's absence at the memorial service significant?
She almost fainted.
We heard a lot of police tape in this series. We heard Sandy Prier's interviews with the initial case detectives through to Eugene Gligor's interview with cold case detectives 20 years later. By the way, that's some of the most compelling tape I have heard in a long time. And I love that you guys just let it play because you see how bizarre this back and forth is with this guy breaking down.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the background of the Blood and Water series?
0:00–1:19
2
Who was Eugene Gligor and what was his involvement in the murder case?
1:19–1:55
3
What was Stephanie Ramos's experience reporting on this case?
1:55–2:39
4
How did the detectives approach interviewing Eugene Gligor's brother?
2:39–3:15
5
What insights did Andre Gligor provide during his interview?
3:15–4:00
6
Why was Eugene's absence at the memorial service significant?
4:00–4:40
7
What were the dynamics between Eugene and Andre Gligor?
4:40–5:07
8
How did the case conclusion impact Lauren Prier's life?
5:07–23:53