The After Show: "Come Home Safe"
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Hi there everybody and welcome to 2020 The After Show. I'm Deborah Roberts, and once again, um just so delighted to be with you to pull back the curtain on the reporting that we do. And so many of our stories um involve legal issues, of course, courtroom traumas. Um obviously true crime uh stories that just have lots of legal language involved. Well today we're gonna talk to our ABC News legal contributor, Brian Buckmeyer, who I have run into in the hallways plenty of times and we've had little quick little chats, but we haven't had a chance to talk in depth. And today we will. Brian is host of ABC's podcast Bad Rap, The Case Against Diddy. He's joining us to help uh look behind the scenes of how this all kind of plays out and to defend people in court, um somebody that's been accused of a crime, navigating the moral responsibilities of his job, of course, because he's a practicing lawyer.
And his message for young people on the importance of knowing your rights. So there's a lot that we're gonna get to, Brian. Um, and talking about misconceptions of criminal defense work and so forth, but it's so great just to have you here. Welcome.
Yeah, thank you for having me. To your to your point, we keep bumping into each other, but not longer than like thirty, forty five seconds. This is great.
Yeah, this is great. And you've contributed to a lot of our platforms here. And you are a lawyer. I learned more about you getting ready for this conversation, by the way, than I knew. I mean, of course I knew you were a lawyer because you bring your legal expertise to mo so much of what we're doing. But I'm just really curious, I mean, when we're talking about the law. And and you know, for us to try to understand it, you bring in um not only the expertise, but you kinda help us from a layman's perspective of understanding. And many of our stories, and in this particular case you've been talking a lot about Diddy. Talk to us a little bit about the conversations that are happening before these folks go to trial and you know, what you are thinking when you are sitting down talking with us about
you know, what has transpired in these cases.
What is the focus of The After Show episode with Brian Buckmeyer?
Yeah, so before we go to trial, oftentimes we've we've learned a lot about the case from the arrest, indictment, the motions, the arguments that are going on. But I often tell people, both as a practicing attorney and someone who who's on ABC What we hear in the news is often a fraction of what we end up learning at trial right or even thereafter. Oftentimes because defense attorneys don't really speak out in their case. And it's only when smartly. Yeah. It's only when you get that full breadth of the entire case can you really absorb it. And that's I think why a lot of judges say Don't deliberate until you get the case. Don't come to any conclusion until you get the case because it's not until you get everything that you can really formulate an idea
around the case. And you know about defense work because you are a defense lawyer and and tell everybody a little bit about your background and the work that you've done.
Yeah. So I started in twenty fourteen, uh a few years ago. We won't have to date myself too much.
You were you were a very young, young very
young
prodigy.
Um but I was at the Legal Aid Society, which is the oldest and largest public defender's office in the country, uh specifically in their criminal defense practice in Brooklyn. I was a public defender in the way that you think when you watch TV, and they say if you can't afford an attorney, one will be given to you. That was me. Uh and I did that for a little under a decade.
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