Mr & Mrs Murder

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What events led to Mike Williams’ disappearance on the hunting trip?

Unknown 0:02
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Unknown 1:03
They let it decay before they try to eat it. And then they come up and do the death roll. It tears the meat off like we would tear a chicken wing apart trying to eat it. They're just an eating machine.
Unknown 1:42
B-speed mark it. B-speed mark it.
Kathy Thomas 1:48
Tallahassee is a very southern town. It does not look like that typical Florida beach. It's like old Florida. It has been said that Tallahassee is a big little town. Let me just start at the beginning. We all went to high school together. Me and Brian, Mike and Denise. I have
Unknown 2:28
a whole new respect for my wife. We're just totally
Kathy Thomas 2:31
overwhelmed. We were two perfect little families that are all best friends.
Kathy Thomas 2:50
I always had my family Christmas on a Saturday before Christmas Day. We would go to South Georgia at my granny's farm. Around noon, Denise calls me and she says, do you know where Brian is? Do you know where Mike is? And I say, no, I haven't heard from anybody this morning. During hunting season, Brian hunted nearly every day. It would just be morning and I would be up and he wouldn't be there and I would just know he was hunting. She says, well, Mike had gone hunting at Lake Seminole that morning and they were supposed to be leaving to go to Apalachicola. He told me he'd be back by noon. She was irritated. Denise and Mike had planned to take their anniversary trip out of bed and breakfast. It was kind of a big deal.
Kathy Thomas 3:50
I said, no, I don't know. If I hear anything, I'll let you know. Brian wasn't home by 2 o'clock, so I just packed up, and we just went up to my granny's by ourselves. Brian got to my granny's between 4 and 5. And my uncle said to him, you're in a lot of trouble, meaning because he was late, you know. And so I say to Brian, did you ever hear from Mike today? And he says, well, what are you talking about? And I said, well, Denise had called me and said that Mike hadn't come back from hunting yet. And he says, oh, I don't know. You know, I didn't go with him this morning. We had a great afternoon. Presents are opened and shortly into all that, Brian was asleep on the couch. I just rolled my eyes and was like, of course.
Kathy Thomas 4:45
Shows up late and then just comes in and falls asleep. When we got back to Tallahassee, Brian's father called and said, Mike hasn't come home at all and they need to go out to the lake to look for him. And I remember Brian saying to me, he'll be cold and he'll be beat up, but he'll be fine. I went to Denise's house. We all felt like we were just waiting for him to get home so we could all just laugh and hear what happened. He's going to have some hilarious story.
Duck hunting, typically, your ideal conditions are when it's
Unknown 5:38
overcast. Wet,
really cold, just terrible weather. That's when your ducks are flying the best. And that's usually when I stay home, when it's nice and cold like that. But Mike had the passion for the outdoors.
Unknown 5:52
But he wasn't a real strong swimmer. He would go by himself. He normally would wear his waders. which is extremely
dangerous for a duck hunter. Because if you fall in, the waders fill up with water and you drown. He just wasn't careful enough in my opinion, but. He wanted to be outside
Kathy Thomas 6:18
shooting ducks.
Unknown 6:25
It was around 72 degrees on Saturday when Mike went missing. And then a cold front had come through and the next morning it was 12 degrees.
Unknown 6:47
When I first arrived on scene, Brian Winchester and his dad found the boat.

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