Stephen A. Smith

Like Netflix has the stuff that is targeted at conservative people in the middle of the country and the stuff that's targeted at liberals.

Like Netflix has the stuff that is targeted at conservative people in the middle of the country and the stuff that's targeted at liberals.

Yeah. They have everything. And New York Times obviously brings with it a brand that exists, but it is like right now, if I am just like, I want to find out what is happening right now in this moment, my default place to go would just be the New York Times.

Yeah. They have everything. And New York Times obviously brings with it a brand that exists, but it is like right now, if I am just like, I want to find out what is happening right now in this moment, my default place to go would just be the New York Times.

I know, like it's 2005, right? Because for 10 years and then 15 years in the middle, Twitter was where I would have gone to see that. Now you can't use social media for that. Like you just can't ask the question of what is going on and have it answered.

I know, like it's 2005, right? Because for 10 years and then 15 years in the middle, Twitter was where I would have gone to see that. Now you can't use social media for that. Like you just can't ask the question of what is going on and have it answered.

Yeah, you can't just open up Twitter and have it be at the top of your feed in the way it was before from a trusted, you know, a reporter or a news outlet you knew that had been verified by Twitter. Yeah.

Yeah, you can't just open up Twitter and have it be at the top of your feed in the way it was before from a trusted, you know, a reporter or a news outlet you knew that had been verified by Twitter. Yeah.

And you want to know what's going on and you want to know what's more important than what else. Like you want to know where on the page it is. You want some hierarchy actually in the chaos. No, I mean, that's the opportunity that we see ourselves as running at for sure.

And you want to know what's going on and you want to know what's more important than what else. Like you want to know where on the page it is. You want some hierarchy actually in the chaos. No, I mean, that's the opportunity that we see ourselves as running at for sure.

but it's like right now for a lot of people, I think who are sort of in the serious news consumer, it's like, you want to know what's happening in sports. Maybe you go to ESPN or maybe you go to the New York times. Right. You want to know how to cook something. You go there. You want to play, you want to play a game. You go there. You want to know what's happening. Yeah. You go there.

but it's like right now for a lot of people, I think who are sort of in the serious news consumer, it's like, you want to know what's happening in sports. Maybe you go to ESPN or maybe you go to the New York times. Right. You want to know how to cook something. You go there. You want to play, you want to play a game. You go there. You want to know what's happening. Yeah. You go there.

You want to know who's winning the Grammys? Yeah. You open up the New York Times app, and they are telling you as they come in where they are. It is such a dominant position in the ecosystem that it has. To me, I really feel like it has replaced the conglomerate of major news sources you were all getting from Twitter or from whatever you were using 10 years ago. Yeah.

You want to know who's winning the Grammys? Yeah. You open up the New York Times app, and they are telling you as they come in where they are. It is such a dominant position in the ecosystem that it has. To me, I really feel like it has replaced the conglomerate of major news sources you were all getting from Twitter or from whatever you were using 10 years ago. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, it is the internet for news, right? In the way that Netflix is the internet for TV and movies, primarily.

Yeah, yeah, it is the internet for news, right? In the way that Netflix is the internet for TV and movies, primarily.

Yeah, and then you can get a bunch of stuff around the edges. But ultimately, no, I think that's, I think that's really true right now. But I think we're also sort of in this moment when podcasts like this one, like, what is this? Is this a pod? Are we on video? Is it television? Is it a podcast?

Yeah, and then you can get a bunch of stuff around the edges. But ultimately, no, I think that's, I think that's really true right now. But I think we're also sort of in this moment when podcasts like this one, like, what is this? Is this a pod? Are we on video? Is it television? Is it a podcast?

It's true. It's long form content.

It's true. It's long form content.