Stephen A. Smith

Some people will be watching this on a big screen on YouTube and at some point somebody's going to come and make us both wear makeup to do this so our skin looks less weird. And then suddenly we're just like idiots in boxes screaming at each other just like cable.

Some people will be watching this on a big screen on YouTube and at some point somebody's going to come and make us both wear makeup to do this so our skin looks less weird. And then suddenly we're just like idiots in boxes screaming at each other just like cable.

And I think there's a really, really fast convergence happening between what we used to call podcasts and what we used to call television. And I don't quite know where that lands, but I think that's People don't quite realize the speed at which that's happening and at which that's going to be a kind of re-centralized form of consumption. You see it on ESPN, right?

And I think there's a really, really fast convergence happening between what we used to call podcasts and what we used to call television. And I don't quite know where that lands, but I think that's People don't quite realize the speed at which that's happening and at which that's going to be a kind of re-centralized form of consumption. You see it on ESPN, right?

You see Pat McAfee out in the afternoons on ESPN. It's like, what's happening here? Like one guy's head is bigger than the other guy's head?

You see Pat McAfee out in the afternoons on ESPN. It's like, what's happening here? Like one guy's head is bigger than the other guy's head?

I mean, there is the conventions of television as we know it are coming down in news particular. And the things that people don't sort of realize –

I mean, there is the conventions of television as we know it are coming down in news particular. And the things that people don't sort of realize –

who sort of even like people even who work in journalism or who are in the communications field in politics or PR or whatever else is there is still like a old world mentality that's hard to break out of because you're always people like people a lot of people are generationally like frozen in amber and when they started in media I think that's very true of politicians every single one of us it's just

who sort of even like people even who work in journalism or who are in the communications field in politics or PR or whatever else is there is still like a old world mentality that's hard to break out of because you're always people like people a lot of people are generationally like frozen in amber and when they started in media I think that's very true of politicians every single one of us it's just

but I think some people, and I give you kind of this point have, you know, you have been in different, you, you know, you were sort of, you were a tabloid reporter in the, in New York city. You were a blogger when blogs took off and sort of became the, you've ridden the wave. I've tried to ride the wave, um, as well, but, um,

but I think some people, and I give you kind of this point have, you know, you have been in different, you, you know, you were sort of, you were a tabloid reporter in the, in New York city. You were a blogger when blogs took off and sort of became the, you've ridden the wave. I've tried to ride the wave, um, as well, but, um,

Like the fact that you don't sort of realize is one, the biggest podcasting platform in the world is not Spotify. It's YouTube. Right. And that a shocking the numbers of people who watch YouTube on their actual smart TV in their house shocks people that it's so. Yeah.

Like the fact that you don't sort of realize is one, the biggest podcasting platform in the world is not Spotify. It's YouTube. Right. And that a shocking the numbers of people who watch YouTube on their actual smart TV in their house shocks people that it's so. Yeah.

Would you like put on nicer clothes if you really thought about it?

Would you like put on nicer clothes if you really thought about it?

I put on a – normally I'm wearing a t-shirt. I put on an actual sweater. That's pretty nice. I would not have put on a sport coat because this is a podcast. But don't you think – It's not a funeral wedding or court date.

I put on a – normally I'm wearing a t-shirt. I put on an actual sweater. That's pretty nice. I would not have put on a sport coat because this is a podcast. But don't you think – It's not a funeral wedding or court date.

But actually, you're also running a media business. You must be thinking, why don't you have – like some hour of MSNBC. Why isn't Podsave providing an hour to CNN or MSNBC or something? Why are they paying these people way more than you would charge them to provide an hour of programming? Don't you see that stuff converging?

But actually, you're also running a media business. You must be thinking, why don't you have – like some hour of MSNBC. Why isn't Podsave providing an hour to CNN or MSNBC or something? Why are they paying these people way more than you would charge them to provide an hour of programming? Don't you see that stuff converging?