Stephen Dubner

Hey there, it's Stephen Dubner.

For the past five years, my Freakonomics friend and co-author Steve Levitt has been hosting his own podcast, which is called People I Mostly Admire.

The bad news is Levitt has decided to stop making new episodes of that show.

The good news is that Levitt will be hosting the occasional Freakonomics radio episode.

The other good news is that starting now, we are going to republish the entire People I Mostly Admire archive from the beginning.

So if you never heard it,

Or if you missed some episodes, now is the time to get on board.

Just go follow People I Mostly Admire in your podcast app.

You will not regret it.

In the meantime, I thought that today you might like to hear, as a bonus episode, the final installment of People I Mostly Admire, or PEMA as we call it.

It's a sort of exit interview with Levitt conducted by me.

And it starts now.

This is Freakonomics Radio, the podcast that explores the hidden side of everything with your host, Stephen Dubner.

I'm good.

How are you doing?

So this is the final new episode of People I Mostly Admire, at least for now.

Does that mean you've run out of people you admire?

It'd be interesting to know what would happen if you could substitute the word universe for every time he said Jesus Christ your God.

Like, I would like to see the results of an experiment where a whole bunch of people watch or read a sermon where you do that.

What do you think would be the effect?