Stephen Dubner

Which is kind of odd considering maybe not so odd that you married someone who had that in common with your mom, just because that's what some psychologists say is common.

But I've never known anyone to be more disdainful of everything new agey than you.

So you did People I Mostly Admire for five years, which surprised me when I looked it up.

It went fast, at least for me.

I don't know.

Maybe the five felt like 20 years to you.

But can you just describe the arc of it from your perspective?

Well, I'll share a secret with you.

The reason that a lot of writers and especially journalists become journalists is because it forces you to do the work.

Which was good and bad, especially if there's a quota that you have to fill, it can get sloppy.

But well, to that point, Pima was every week originally to every other week.

What was that change about?

I love how three minutes ago you said, it's the best thing that ever happened to me.

And now it's ruining your life.

So if it was perfect, why do you want to stop?

When did you start getting as driven as you are by that appetite?

Was it always in you or is it more recent?

When you're trying to recruit students, how are you communicating to students and their parents?

Like it's this kind of school and this is what's going to happen.

Because it's a little bit like a scared straight story.