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Stephen Dubner

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Freakonomics Radio
How to Succeed at Failing, Part 3: Grit vs. Quit (Update)

Amy Edmondson and Gary Klein have both built their research careers around the study of failure.

Freakonomics Radio
How to Succeed at Failing, Part 3: Grit vs. Quit (Update)

Amy Edmondson and Gary Klein have both built their research careers around the study of failure.

Freakonomics Radio
How to Succeed at Failing, Part 3: Grit vs. Quit (Update)

Amy Edmondson and Gary Klein have both built their research careers around the study of failure.

Freakonomics Radio
How to Succeed at Failing, Part 3: Grit vs. Quit (Update)

The thing about quitting is that it is usually seen as an admission of failure. And so we are solemnly counseled to never quit. Consider Winston Churchill.

Freakonomics Radio
How to Succeed at Failing, Part 3: Grit vs. Quit (Update)

The thing about quitting is that it is usually seen as an admission of failure. And so we are solemnly counseled to never quit. Consider Winston Churchill.

Freakonomics Radio
How to Succeed at Failing, Part 3: Grit vs. Quit (Update)

The thing about quitting is that it is usually seen as an admission of failure. And so we are solemnly counseled to never quit. Consider Winston Churchill.

Freakonomics Radio
How to Succeed at Failing, Part 3: Grit vs. Quit (Update)

You'll run into that Churchill quote in a lot of the literature around grit. But context matters. Churchill gave that speech at his old school in October of 1941, when Britain was almost single-handedly trying to hold off Nazi Germany in World War II. The threat his country faced was literally existential. So you can see why quitting wasn't an attractive option.

Freakonomics Radio
How to Succeed at Failing, Part 3: Grit vs. Quit (Update)

You'll run into that Churchill quote in a lot of the literature around grit. But context matters. Churchill gave that speech at his old school in October of 1941, when Britain was almost single-handedly trying to hold off Nazi Germany in World War II. The threat his country faced was literally existential. So you can see why quitting wasn't an attractive option.

Freakonomics Radio
How to Succeed at Failing, Part 3: Grit vs. Quit (Update)

You'll run into that Churchill quote in a lot of the literature around grit. But context matters. Churchill gave that speech at his old school in October of 1941, when Britain was almost single-handedly trying to hold off Nazi Germany in World War II. The threat his country faced was literally existential. So you can see why quitting wasn't an attractive option.

Freakonomics Radio
How to Succeed at Failing, Part 3: Grit vs. Quit (Update)

But for the rest of us, in most situations where we're thinking about grit versus quit, the decision isn't nearly as obvious. As we've been discussing in this series, we humans are almost pathologically afraid of failure. What we like are stories of success and of perseverance.

Freakonomics Radio
How to Succeed at Failing, Part 3: Grit vs. Quit (Update)

But for the rest of us, in most situations where we're thinking about grit versus quit, the decision isn't nearly as obvious. As we've been discussing in this series, we humans are almost pathologically afraid of failure. What we like are stories of success and of perseverance.

Freakonomics Radio
How to Succeed at Failing, Part 3: Grit vs. Quit (Update)

But for the rest of us, in most situations where we're thinking about grit versus quit, the decision isn't nearly as obvious. As we've been discussing in this series, we humans are almost pathologically afraid of failure. What we like are stories of success and of perseverance.

Freakonomics Radio
How to Succeed at Failing, Part 3: Grit vs. Quit (Update)

So the best possible story is the one where our hero encounters many struggles, but shows grit, refuses to quit, and ultimately wins the battle. Those are the stories we hear in fairy tales, in lectures, in books. But shouldn't we spend some time hearing the failure stories too? Can't they be as instructive as the success stories? This is an idea I've been kicking around for a long time.

Freakonomics Radio
How to Succeed at Failing, Part 3: Grit vs. Quit (Update)

So the best possible story is the one where our hero encounters many struggles, but shows grit, refuses to quit, and ultimately wins the battle. Those are the stories we hear in fairy tales, in lectures, in books. But shouldn't we spend some time hearing the failure stories too? Can't they be as instructive as the success stories? This is an idea I've been kicking around for a long time.

Freakonomics Radio
How to Succeed at Failing, Part 3: Grit vs. Quit (Update)

So the best possible story is the one where our hero encounters many struggles, but shows grit, refuses to quit, and ultimately wins the battle. Those are the stories we hear in fairy tales, in lectures, in books. But shouldn't we spend some time hearing the failure stories too? Can't they be as instructive as the success stories? This is an idea I've been kicking around for a long time.

Freakonomics Radio
How to Succeed at Failing, Part 3: Grit vs. Quit (Update)

It goes back to when I was in graduate school for writing. Most of us were young, earnest, hardworking writers. And it seemed that the obvious path to success was to emulate other successful writers. So we read and wrote and read and wrote and read some more. And we wrote a lot of short stories that tried to be Raymond Carver, a lot of novels that tried to be Virginia Woolf.

Freakonomics Radio
How to Succeed at Failing, Part 3: Grit vs. Quit (Update)

It goes back to when I was in graduate school for writing. Most of us were young, earnest, hardworking writers. And it seemed that the obvious path to success was to emulate other successful writers. So we read and wrote and read and wrote and read some more. And we wrote a lot of short stories that tried to be Raymond Carver, a lot of novels that tried to be Virginia Woolf.

Freakonomics Radio
How to Succeed at Failing, Part 3: Grit vs. Quit (Update)

It goes back to when I was in graduate school for writing. Most of us were young, earnest, hardworking writers. And it seemed that the obvious path to success was to emulate other successful writers. So we read and wrote and read and wrote and read some more. And we wrote a lot of short stories that tried to be Raymond Carver, a lot of novels that tried to be Virginia Woolf.

Freakonomics Radio
How to Succeed at Failing, Part 3: Grit vs. Quit (Update)

I did not find this to be a fruitful path. It struck me that great writers are great because of some unique combination of factors that are by definition inimitable. So why are we trying to imitate their success? But there was something I found really instructive when I read the other students' writing and it didn't work.

Freakonomics Radio
How to Succeed at Failing, Part 3: Grit vs. Quit (Update)

I did not find this to be a fruitful path. It struck me that great writers are great because of some unique combination of factors that are by definition inimitable. So why are we trying to imitate their success? But there was something I found really instructive when I read the other students' writing and it didn't work.