Stephen Dubner

It's a big line, yeah.

To the animals that we call pests, what are humans? Are we just pests that text and build parking lots?

To the animals that we call pests, what are humans? Are we just pests that text and build parking lots?

To the animals that we call pests, what are humans? Are we just pests that text and build parking lots?

Since rats are no longer a big disease vector, at least for now in most places, do you think our frightened view of them is simply outdated and that for the most part, rats are, yes, a negative externality of humans in cities, but a really minor one that we shouldn't worry so much about?

Since rats are no longer a big disease vector, at least for now in most places, do you think our frightened view of them is simply outdated and that for the most part, rats are, yes, a negative externality of humans in cities, but a really minor one that we shouldn't worry so much about?

Since rats are no longer a big disease vector, at least for now in most places, do you think our frightened view of them is simply outdated and that for the most part, rats are, yes, a negative externality of humans in cities, but a really minor one that we shouldn't worry so much about?

So, Ed, let's play a quick game of word association. When I say rats, you say what? Cuddly. Come on now, you're just trying to make me happy now, aren't you?

So, Ed, let's play a quick game of word association. When I say rats, you say what? Cuddly. Come on now, you're just trying to make me happy now, aren't you?

So, Ed, let's play a quick game of word association. When I say rats, you say what? Cuddly. Come on now, you're just trying to make me happy now, aren't you?

I want to run past you at a couple of titles we're considering for the series. Let me know what you think. One is The Exoneration of the Rat. Too much?

I want to run past you at a couple of titles we're considering for the series. Let me know what you think. One is The Exoneration of the Rat. Too much?

I want to run past you at a couple of titles we're considering for the series. Let me know what you think. One is The Exoneration of the Rat. Too much?

Could I interest you in sympathy for the rat?

Could I interest you in sympathy for the rat?

Could I interest you in sympathy for the rat?

Although the Rolling Stones sympathy, this is sympathy for the devil. The devil is the narrator of that song. You know, I shouted out who killed the Kennedys when after all it was you and me. So it's not the purest sympathy, let's say. Do you still like this angle?

Although the Rolling Stones sympathy, this is sympathy for the devil. The devil is the narrator of that song. You know, I shouted out who killed the Kennedys when after all it was you and me. So it's not the purest sympathy, let's say. Do you still like this angle?

Although the Rolling Stones sympathy, this is sympathy for the devil. The devil is the narrator of that song. You know, I shouted out who killed the Kennedys when after all it was you and me. So it's not the purest sympathy, let's say. Do you still like this angle?

Coming up next time in part two of Sympathy for the Rat, we will talk about how to control this urban partner of ours.