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Stephen Dubner

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Freakonomics Radio
Why Don’t Running Backs Get Paid Anymore? (Update)

You could stage a holdout.

Freakonomics Radio
Why Don’t Running Backs Get Paid Anymore? (Update)

That's what both Saquon Barkley and Josh Jacobs did in 2023, sitting out training camp after being franchise tagged by their respective teams, the New York Giants and the Las Vegas Raiders.

Freakonomics Radio
Why Don’t Running Backs Get Paid Anymore? (Update)

Both of them left their teams at the end of the season, and both have prospered with their new teams, Barkley with the Eagles and Jacobs with the Green Bay Packers.

Freakonomics Radio
Why Don’t Running Backs Get Paid Anymore? (Update)

But a holdout doesn't always go as planned.

Freakonomics Radio
Why Don’t Running Backs Get Paid Anymore? (Update)

In 2018, Pittsburgh Steelers running back Le'Veon Bell, one of the best backs in the league at the time, held out for the entire season rather than play under a franchise tag.

Freakonomics Radio
Why Don’t Running Backs Get Paid Anymore? (Update)

Here again is Brian Burke, the ESPN data scientist.

Freakonomics Radio
Why Don’t Running Backs Get Paid Anymore? (Update)

He got a big money contract with the Jets, but then he wasn't very good there.

Freakonomics Radio
Why Don’t Running Backs Get Paid Anymore? (Update)

Then his career was kind of over.

Freakonomics Radio
Why Don’t Running Backs Get Paid Anymore? (Update)

What would you have advised him when he was doing really well with the Steelers on his rookie contract?

Freakonomics Radio
Why Don’t Running Backs Get Paid Anymore? (Update)

And it's usually the Jets, to be honest.

Freakonomics Radio
Why Don’t Running Backs Get Paid Anymore? (Update)

He found that one for sure.

Freakonomics Radio
Why Don’t Running Backs Get Paid Anymore? (Update)

Bell's agent at the time was Jeffrey Whitney, who we heard from earlier.

Freakonomics Radio
Why Don’t Running Backs Get Paid Anymore? (Update)

He told us he didn't want to discuss the Bell situation.

Freakonomics Radio
Why Don’t Running Backs Get Paid Anymore? (Update)

Beyond a holdout, what other options are available to dissatisfied running backs?

Freakonomics Radio
Why Don’t Running Backs Get Paid Anymore? (Update)

A few years ago, there was an attempt at creating a carve-out, a running back-specific labor designation proposed by a group called the International Brotherhood of Professional Running Backs.

Freakonomics Radio
Why Don’t Running Backs Get Paid Anymore? (Update)

They petitioned the NLRB, the National Labor Relations Board, for what labor lawyers call a unit clarification.

Freakonomics Radio
Why Don’t Running Backs Get Paid Anymore? (Update)

They argued that the unique physical demands of the running back position were

Freakonomics Radio
Why Don’t Running Backs Get Paid Anymore? (Update)

set them apart from other football players and that they should therefore be allowed to break away from the NFL Players Union and negotiate on their own.

Freakonomics Radio
Why Don’t Running Backs Get Paid Anymore? (Update)

A clever idea, maybe, but the NLRB rejected their request.

Freakonomics Radio
Why Don’t Running Backs Get Paid Anymore? (Update)

I asked Robert Smith, the former Vikings running back, what he thought of this idea.