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Stephen Dubner

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
8545 total appearances

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Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

I just made all types of assumptions.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

Oh, my God.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

So he was going on and on about his stuff.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

And I think I even think I even said his name wrong.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

I didn't know who he was.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

And I felt like, you know, when you have egg in your face, like I had to pick up my face and put it back on because I was like, embarrassing.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

Because you were giving him a hard time.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

I was giving him a hard time.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

I think.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

He has to say to you, I don't work for Waymo.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

I was like, well, okay, then.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

I'm still mad at you, though.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

It was embarrassing.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

I mean, you know what it was?

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

It was like because it sounded like he worked for Waymo because he was there advocating fiercely for that community in ways that made me feel like he was part of their team.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

I think that if I try to sympathize with the feeling Councilor Mejia is expressing here, this is how I understand it.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

It can be annoying when the other side is a mix of people you're allowed to dismiss out of hand, tech executives, allied with people you're not, disability advocates.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

And when those advocates are all saying similar things, when it's your people, that sounds like solidarity.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

When it's them, it can sound phony.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

It can sound orchestrated.